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[Jilladilla]

I like the GOFAST. And really, we're not facing imminent combat, so a stopgap for our pistol isn't really useful. That, and super-fuel sounds more impressive than a pepperbox pistol in the event we both try to go for the same patron.

"Heartstopper" Pistol Mk. II: [1] FallacyofUrist
GOFAST-Fuel: [2] NUKE9.13, Jilladilla

[Madman198237]

"Heartstopper" Pistol Mk. II: [1] FallacyofUrist
GOFAST-Fuel: [3] NUKE9.13, Jilladilla, Madman

[Hibou]

"Heartstopper" Pistol Mk. II: [1] FallacyofUrist
GOFAST-Fuel: [4] NUKE9.13, Jilladilla, Madman, Hibou

Jilla did put up some good points.

[Chiefwaffles]

GOFAST-Fuel: Fuel! It seems like everything needs it these days- trucks, tanks, trains, watercraft and aircraft. For the near future at least, all our vehicles are going to be powered by combustion engines. Which, as mentioned, need fuel. Which we have... but we could always do better. Enter GOFAST, the fuel of the future!
GOFAST is, in the words of the DUC, "A mixture of various hyperflammable compounds, trace amounts of various metals, and regular fuel passed through a classified refinement process". It sounds... Unusual. But early tests show that it can be made remarkably stable, burns at higher temperatures, and has a substantially higher energy density than our existing fuel. There are less potent varieties on offer that are easier to make, should mass production prove prohibitive.

Revision: GOFAST-fuel
(Normal) (4+4) = 8: Unexpected Boon

The Department of Unusual Chemistry have already shown their usefulness!
GOFAST is the definitive fuel of the future. The secretive process of refinement adds all sorts of different materials to the fuel, but it works.

Extraordinarily stable, energy-dense, and more. Vehicles implementing GOFAST will be able to last much longer on the same tank and generally experience much greater fuel efficiency, and will never be compromised due to problems with fuel. Also strangely, it requires no oxidizer at all in order to be effective. Meaning that GOFAST can be utilizes in environments without oxygen effectively and we wouldn't have to include any extra considerations. GOFAST additionally has a physical form that's more solid without any potential disadvantages coming with that - if a GOFAST fuel tank suffered a bullet shot, we doubt any fuel would leak at all.

Due to the extra steps involved in production, GOFAST adds 1 Oil to the cost of anything using it. Anything using it must also be explicitly equipped to deal with its quirks and benefits - it should be trivially easy to incorporate the usage of GOFAST in any new or existing design, but it takes enough time so that the inclusion of GOFAST must be included in a revision or design in order for it to take effect.

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

Transport Capacity: 0
Resources: 2 Ore, 1 Oil

Weapons

• "Stalwart" Rifle: A semi-automatic rifle with mediocre accuracy at Long range and good accuracy at Medium. (and useless accuracy further)
  1 Ore
• "Heartstopper" Pistol: A 2-round semiautomatic pistol semi-accurate up to Short range. Has enormous stopping power. Pride of the Merethan army.
  1 Ore

Other

• Standard Uniform: A plain blue featureless uniform. The blue's mild enough that it doesn't really stick out.
• GOFAST-Fuel: A special type of more energy-dense and stable fuel. Greatly increases fuel efficiency of anything it's in, doesn't require an oxidizer, and can rarely leak out of compromised containers.
  Adds 1 Oil to cost.

The Diplomacy Phase of 1954 has begun. This phase is exclusive to this turn only.
Submit a single plan that:
1.) Chooses either Forenia or Cannala to cement an (unofficial) alliance with.
2.) Choose one design from Autumn 1942 [in ICAR] to import from the choice of ally.
If Aratam chooses the same ally, the nation with the best design (and revision) will get first choice.

[Hibou]

The Elton Plan:
1) Ally with Cannala
2) Take the MAGIC Mk. II

With our new GOFAST fuel combined with Cannala's advanced rocket technology, rocket based propulsion and weapons could very quickly become a reality in our armory.

It also has the added benefit of getting us a step closer to a space program, which means orbital weapons platforms, but that's probably a little ways off.

Alternatively, if space isn't quite the frontier we're interested in,

The Rockwell Plan:
1) Ally with Forenia
2) Take the "DEADLIEST RAY"

Information gathering has never been a bad thing, and since we're in the middle of the cold war it's become more important than ever. RADAR trucks and other such things would give our forces an upper hand, especially since right now the playing fields are fairly even.

There's a notable chance the other side will also want in on this tech, but if we show Forenia (and their fancy airforce) the GOFAST fuel we'll probably get the upper hand.

[Madman198237]

Ally with Forenia
Take the UFN-CA-42 Cataphract

Using the Cataphract gets us:
A good ship
Naval guns
RADAR (Yes, that's right, it has radar as of Autumn)

And a window into developing naval tech.

[NUKE9.13]

So, bear with me here.

I think we should ally with Cannala- they actually have cheaper stuff, which is more important to us than better stuff, at least to start with.
They also have the best machine gun, which is what I propose we acquire from them. Why? Because pretty much any vehicle we design, we're gonna want to stick a machine gun on it somewhere.
Remember, almost everything we can get from them is outdated. As much as possible, we want timeless items, things that will still be relevant today, and ten years from now (like a decent machine gun). The other thing we want is basic tech, not to deploy, but to build off of. So, start with a machine gun, then pick things like basic planes, ships, tanks- as prototypes for our own, better versions- and probably the MAGIC Mk2.

Ally with Cannala
Acquire the M1939 "La Sierra" GPMG

The Elton Plan:
The Rockwell Plan:
GOFASTER Plan:
Get the Basics Plan: [1] NUKE9.13

[Madman198237]

You're a HERETIC!

The Elton Plan:
The Rockwell Plan:
GOFASTER Plan: (1) Madman
Get the Basics Plan: [1] NUKE9.13

I agree with the logic, however I think that Forenia's cheap equipment is probably largely better. We *also* need to remember that we will be designing things the entire time, so we probably ought to start by getting things to build off of, like a ship or a jet.

[Hibou]

The Elton Plan:
The Rockwell Plan:
GOFASTER Plan: (2) Madman, Hibou
Get the Basics Plan: [1] NUKE9.13

Alright, I'll roll with the GOFASTER. Hopefully we do actually get the radar with it.

[Maximum Spin]

The Elton Plan:
The Rockwell Plan:
GOFASTER Plan: (3) Madman, Hibou, Maximum Spin
Get the Basics Plan: [1] NUKE9.13

I also prefer it for personal reasons.

[NUKE9.13]

Bear in mind that we probably won't get all the tech the Cataphract has, and also that we only have 2/1- we can't afford the Cataphract.

[Chiefwaffles]

Let me know if I miss anything regarding imported designs now or in any of the future preparation turns.

It would appear that Aratam has aligned itself with Cannala, leaving our unofficial alliance with Forenia secure for the time being. Forenia has fulfilled our request and has delivered the schematics for the UFN-CA-41 Cataphract.
Unfortunately, it requires a very concentrated effort regarding routing a significant portion of our industry and resources in order to construct a Cataphract. For the time being, it's a National Effort.

Of particular importance is any details of the design that we may wish to replicate - all we have is the schematics. It would take a concerted effort to reverse engineer any individual aspects of the Cataphract, though the official schematics would make it fairly easy.

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

Transport Capacity: 0
Resources: 2 Ore, 1 Oil

Weapons

• "Stalwart" Rifle: A semi-automatic rifle with mediocre accuracy at Long range and good accuracy at Medium (and useless accuracy further).
  [Cheap] 1 Ore
• "Heartstopper" Pistol: A 2-round semiautomatic pistol semi-accurate up to Short range. Has enormous stopping power. Pride of the Merethan army.
  [Cheap] 1 Ore

Navy

• UFN-CA-41 Catraphract: The Cataphract is a cruiser built to rival Cannala's ships. It is armed with 3x3 150mm gun turrets, each using a fully electrified loading system based on the moderately-performing Overcompensator, except that the 60kg shells are moved in one piece. Each gun can fire 8 times a minute. It has an armored citadel with 300mm of nickel-steel armor (Heavy), and a torpedo belt as well. The deck is also heavily armored, at 120mm (Light) to defend against plunging fire, plus an extra splinter deck. The turrets are similarly armored. There is a central director in the con tower which controls all the electrically-driven turrets, though there is no advanced firing calculator. Additionally there are three turrets with two bumblebees on each side of the ship, capable of firing on aircraft or ships, and miscellaneous autocannons wherever there is room. It is powered by oil-burning steam turbines, and there are a lot of them though with its considerable armor it only musters moderate speed.
  [National Effort] 5 Ore, 4 Oil

Other

• Standard Uniform: A plain blue featureless uniform. The blue's mild enough that it doesn't really stick out.
• GOFAST-Fuel: A special type of more energy-dense and stable fuel. Greatly increases fuel efficiency of anything it's in, doesn't require an oxidizer, and can rarely leak out of compromised containers.
  Adds 1 Oil to cost.

Infrastructure

• Division of Unusual Chemistry: A fully funded department & lab under the Design Division specializing in more unusual chemistry.

The Design Phase of 1955 has begun.

[NUKE9.13]

I told you, ya goofballs.

[Maximum Spin]

Yes, but look at all the cool things we have to study now.

[Hibou]

The Rockwell II Plan:
Reverse-engineer the RADAR technology aboard the Cataphract.

The information war rages on!