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Re: Clock change
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2017, 10:54:30 am »

Ban time.  It's ageist.
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Reelya

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Re: Clock change
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2017, 05:04:16 pm »

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Re: Clock change
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2017, 05:08:20 pm »

Hey, if we're going to outrageously change time measurement worldwide why stick with something as vanila as gmt for everyone?  I'd rather go and bring out decimal time, in that scenario
Decimal time is a terrible idea and metric/SI is one of the worst things the French have ever done, which is impressive.
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« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2017, 05:25:49 pm »

Well we could solve both problems by moving to duodecimal mathematics instead of decimal.

You save one digit on every LED clock that way, which saves space and actual resources. You can use a stylized A for 10, and lower-case b for 11 then on led clocks, which is in line with hexadecimal too, thus making computer science a little easier to explain to the masses while you're at it.

Then, you make a new SI based on powers of 12, with the inch/foot as the unit of distance, troy ounce/troy pound as the unit of mass, and then "decimalizing" time under your new system is a little more familiar.

But, you know what I'd do then is actually express all dimensions as powers of 12 of the planck values, so that things are tied into the universal measurement system. The advantage of this system is that 5 of the basic physical constants are set to 1 under this system of units. If you use these as the basis of an improve SI system then you get the advantage that many physical constants can be expressed as 1.000... to some power, thus making all physics calculations both simpler and reducing computation error.

12^36 planck lengths for example is very close to 12 KM. So I would use that as the basis of mid-distance expression. 12^33 plancks is about 2 inches, which is reasonable for measurement. 1/144 of that is half a millimetre so plenty accurate for day to day engineering with two decimal places. This is just to show that shifting to a system where most of the fundamental constants of space time are nice even numbers with clean powers in SI-type units doesn't have to leave an unworkable system.
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Re: Clock change
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2017, 05:35:26 pm »

But, you know what I'd do then is actually express all dimensions as powers of 12 of the planck values, so that things are tied into the universal measurement system. That and a few other simplifying changes in dimension scale would simplify a lot of measurements, similar to how they redefined the second as a whole-number amount of some other measurement, thus removing the need to accurately determine the fractional part altogether.
Like how we totally need to switch from amperes as a base unit and derived coulombs to having a base unit of charge representing a mole of down quarks?
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« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2017, 05:51:02 pm »

It would actually be worthwhile, but maybe in decimal version to be more realistic. Scientists already utilize planck-based measurement systems to improve accuracy and reduce error in their calculations.

If we got the public then using a system that was cleanly tied to that then it would massively simplify scientific education. e.g. teaching all the constants would be easier if you could just say "the speed of light in a vacuum is defined as 1,000,000 mitres per sacond".

Then there wouldn't be even a reason for the cesium-decay thing (or whatever it is, I forget) in the definition of a second as some abitrary complex amount of that. The numbers would neatly scale into an SI type system, and all possible definitions would be equally valid at all scales.

Then, the focus of the learning would be about how to manipulate the dimensionality of physics equations rather than having the focus being on arcane numbers, which in fact happen to be completely arbitrary and unimportant.
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