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Author Topic: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1904 Battle Phase  (Read 29189 times)

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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Design Phase
« Reply #165 on: November 10, 2017, 05:27:55 am »

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Muqali 1893 Pattern Rifle:
The Muqali shows promise, so does the Minie ball. Unfortunately, we believe our engineers screwed up somewhere with the barrel or firing mechanism of the gun as it has a very bad tendency to explode violently half time it is fired. The times it does fire however, it is quite accurate, and loading it is quite quick and easy, just as quick as the Nafunans in fact. The caplock is also something that shows promise, however, as stated, we are unsure what exactly makes it explode half the time and can only make assumptions. Naturally, most of our troops refuse to use it, as they don't want a weapon that will explode in their hands, even if its record so far has only maimed and injured the user and not killed any of them yet. Costs 1 ore, 1 wood, 1 poor human brave/foolish enough to fire the thing. -Complex Expensive

It is now the Revision phase. Please, make something good, the Khan is getting angry, and no one is happy if the Khan is angry.
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #166 on: November 10, 2017, 05:46:10 am »

Well, I mean, clearly the barrel isn't strong enough. We just need to reinforce it.

Reinforced Muqali Barrel: We will use a slightly thicker barrel, especially at the base, and reinforce it with wrought-iron hoops that are heated before being slid over the barrel so they contract, putting inwards pressure on the barrel to counteract the outwards pressure of the gunpowder. This will prevent the gun from exploding, without needing to reduce the power.


EDIT: Scratch that, it's the bullet.

So, Joe confirmed on Discord that we tried using less powder and that didn't help, so it isn't the barrel being too weak. The only other possibility I can think of is the Minie ball deforming so much it blocks the barrel.

Reworked Minie Ball: After developing a way of firing the Muqali remotely (a piece of string), we resumed testing. We think the problem is the bullet deforming so much it blocks the barrel, so different shapes and sizes of bullet were tried, as were different materials.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2017, 06:06:05 am by NUKE9.13 »
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #167 on: November 10, 2017, 05:53:03 am »

We need to not be little pussies about this. We can do more than just a minor revision.

I want a reinforced Muqali Barrel that also has adjustable sights on it and a little knife attached to to end of the gun like a baby bayonet to make melee a bit easier.

There. Fixed the gun to be what we wanted it to be, and then added a couple of easy enough things onto it that will raise accuracy and some killyness.

Edit: and fix the ammunition

Good Reinforced Muqali Barrelli


Well damn.

design a new ammunition that fragments into multiple pieces of metal when it impacts the target. This will be relatively tricky to make at the moment but when industry kicks off it should be ubiquitous
The ammunition may be the problem. So gonna kill two nafunans with one stone and go for something a little outside the box. Plus this ammunition will do wonders in the Swamp since more shrapnel in the wounds makes the already grubby location lethal as fuck.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2017, 06:13:00 am by Thanatos Russ »
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2017, 12:41:56 pm »

That awkward feeling that wake up and fins out you are the only one not voting for your own design. :-[

But hey my first design to every win in any arms race yay! :D
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #169 on: November 10, 2017, 12:48:25 pm »

Anyway. Fix the bullets, yes. But do so in a simple way that will almost certainly get results, or a more ambitious way that might not yield anything usable?

I'm going with simple.
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #170 on: November 10, 2017, 12:50:48 pm »

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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #171 on: November 10, 2017, 02:13:19 pm »

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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #172 on: November 10, 2017, 02:16:01 pm »

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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Revision Phase
« Reply #173 on: November 10, 2017, 04:52:48 pm »

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Reworked Minie ball: Quite simply, its a slightly smaller Minie ball for the barrel of the rifle so that way it doesn't explode violently. Using this, we have been able to get further results on the Muqali 1893 pattern rifle, showing it to be about as accurate and quick to load as the Nafunan's rifles, in fact, we believe that it is possible that the Nafuna's have been using this kind of ammo and that such a thing is the result of their accuracy and quick loading. Otherwise, we have found that it is more reliable then our own old rifle due to the caplock system. Nothing else of note is to report however.

It is now the Battle Phase, the Khan has calmed down a bit.
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Battle Phase
« Reply #174 on: November 10, 2017, 05:00:27 pm »

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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Battle Phase
« Reply #175 on: November 10, 2017, 05:01:28 pm »

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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Battle Phase
« Reply #176 on: November 10, 2017, 05:24:04 pm »

Is this even a question?
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Battle Phase
« Reply #177 on: November 10, 2017, 06:21:56 pm »

yeah going with the hivemind. Our navy thing is basically just gonna have to sit on the back burner.
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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Battle Phase
« Reply #178 on: November 10, 2017, 06:53:15 pm »


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Re: The Ameliorate War, An Arms Race game, Karikhita, 1893 Battle Phase
« Reply #179 on: November 10, 2017, 07:02:39 pm »

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