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[Thanik]

As I said in the discord, my biggest problem with the Sekhmeth is the new ammo it uses, which will introduce logistics problems. And that is symptomatic of the min-maxing of your designs. We can't just keep making new types of ammo in a similar calibre, that will choke up our supply lines and there is likely to be incidents in which the wrong ammo is used due to their similar size.

You do realize PirateJoe has said that this is a non-existent problem, right? Even if logistics were THAT involved, 3 types of ammo aren't going to collapse our logistical structure - and neither would a dozen for that matter (not that we'd ever reach that point). Real world forces had a specific cartridge for every type of gun up to a point, and even then variations based on each gun exist to this day. Producing different types of ammo hasn't and wouldn't be a problem, as it's a trivial matter.

[NAV]

The simple truth is that rifles and machineguns have pretty much the same ideal cartridge requirements, and the ability to share and trade ammo between machinegun and rifle is a much larger bonus than any small bonus from a better machinegun cartridge. IRL that's very important and if the GM doesn't think it is then lets produce some salt. Edit: Its not so much the logistics of supplying 3 types of ammo as the smaller scale sharing between members of the same platoon.

[Thanik]

The simple truth is that rifles and machineguns have pretty much the same ideal cartridge requirements, and the ability to share and trade ammo between machinegun and rifle is a much larger bonus than any small bonus from a better machinegun cartridge. IRL that's very important and if the GM doesn't think it is then lets produce some salt. Edit: Its not so much the logistics of supplying 3 types of ammo as the smaller scale sharing between members of the same platoon.

I'd say something from the discord, or just explain why I think it won't really provide any disadvantage in that way, but I really don't have the energy right now, and honestly - I'm thankful for your feedback either way.

[Taricus]

Carrera Series 3 Model 1 Machinegun (4): Taricus, TFF, Zanzetkuken, Thanik
Carrera Series 3 Model 2 Machinegun (4): Funk, Mandemon, NAV, Talion
Samir Mark 1 Ultra-Light-Repeating-Artillery (1): Lightforger
Reseph Sekhmeth Series 1 Rapid Repeater Rifle (0):

Updated the vote with discord changes.

[Thanik]

Carrera Series 3 Model 1 Machinegun (4): Taricus, TFF, Zanzetkuken, Thanik
Carrera Series 3 Model 2 Machinegun (4): Funk, Mandemon, NAV, Talion
Samir Mark 1 Ultra-Light-Repeating-Artillery (1): Lightforger
Reseph Sekhmeth Series 1 Rapid Repeater Rifle (0):

Thank you, there's no way in hell I'm letting the revolver machine gun win. I'd have kept the S97 proposal as voted on by me, but what's the actual benefit that might bring? It's not like anyone else's actually considering to vote for it. (Vote change announced at 10:45, but wasn't updated till now (for *some reason*).

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Carrera Series 3 Model 1 Machinegun (3): Taricus, TFF, Thanik
Carrera Series 3 Model 2 Machinegun (5): Funk, Mandemon, NAV, Talion, Zanzetkuken
Samir Mark 1 Ultra-Light-Repeating-Artillery (1): Lightforger
Reseph Sekhmeth Series 1 Rapid Repeater Rifle (0):

[piratejoe]

Very Hard: 5
Carrera Series 3 Model 2 Machinegun: Despite the last minute objection by Reseph which caused the process of 'Voting on which design to actually work on' to be delayed by a few hours and lasting a bit longer then usual, we have made something quite interesting with our hard work. The Carrera series 3 Model 2 is a machine gun that much like the rifle used before it, uses a revolver, however in a different way then we would originally use. Most of the time its crewed by two people, one to load and one to fire. Both are given replacement barrels as, despite the great fire rate, if it fires all its rounds and is given no time after reloading to cool, the barrel will overheat and warp. If the user doesn't replace the barrel at this point, there is a chance that the gun will get jammed or fire off a chunk of the barrel resulting in a horribly inaccurate makeshift incendiary round. However its not too much of an issue as the barrels are easy enough to replace and not many people hold the trigger down until they run out of ammo. Costs 2 ore, -Complex, Expensive.

It is now the Revision Phase, Neferu is both surprised and impressed with your work.

[Thanik]

Very Hard: 5
Carrera Series 3 Model 2 Machinegun: Despite the last minute objection by Reseph which caused the process of 'Voting on which design to actually work on' to be delayed by a few hours and lasting a bit longer then usual, we have made something quite interesting with our hard work. The Carrera series 3 Model 2 is a machinegun that much like the rifle used before it, uses a revolver, however in a different way then we would originally use. Most of the time its crewed by two people, one to load and one to fire. Both are given replacement barrels as, despite the great fire rate, if it fires all its rounds and is given no time after reloading to cool, the barrel will overheat and warp. If the user doesn't replace the barrel at this point, there is a chance that the gun will get jammed or fire off a chunk of the barrel resulting in a horribly inaccurate makeshift incendiary round. However its not too much of an issue as the barrels are easy enough to replace and not many people hold the trigger down until they run out of ammo.

It is now the Revision Phase, Neferu is both surprised and impressed with your work.

I hope you're all satisfied with this, because this is what we have now because of an "interesting" design.

[Thanik]

Let's try this again:

Khenthap 6’’ cannon revision
The cannon is to be brought to it's original specifications. That's literally all this has to do. If that works, introducing armor-piercing crushable jacket rounds is to be done, and other general improvements.

Khenthap 6’’ Cannon Revision (1): Thanik

[Thanik]

You can't delete messages on Bay12. That sucks.

[Mandemon]

I hope you're all satisfied with this, because this is what we have now because of an "interesting" design.

Yes. 100%

I am 100% satisfied because I actually like having fun and doing something else than copying real world designs and min-maxing them.

Actual Revision
6’’ Cannon Revision (2): Thanik, Mandemon
Name:
Khenthap 6’’ Cannon (1): Thanik
Djer 6’’ Cannon (1): Mandemon

[Taricus]

Actual Revision
6’’ Cannon Revision (3): Thanik, Mandemon, Taricus
Name:
Khenthap 6’’ Cannon (1): Thanik
Djer 6’’ Cannon (2): Mandemon, Taricus

[TheFantasticMsFox]

Actual Revision
6’’ Cannon Revision (4): Thanik, Mandemon, Taricus, TFF
Name:
Khenthap 6’’ Cannon (1): Thanik, TFF
Djer 6’’ Cannon (2): Mandemon, Taricus

[VoidSlayer]

Actual Revision
6’’ Cannon Revision (4): Thanik, Mandemon, Taricus, TFF, Voidslayer
Name:
Khenthap 6’’ Cannon (1): Thanik, TFF
Djer 6’’ Cannon (2): Mandemon, Taricus
Khenthap-Djer Half Foot Cannon (1): Voidslayer

How about a compromise no one will like.

[NAV]

Actual Revision
6’’ Cannon Revision (4): Thanik, Mandemon, Taricus, TFF, Voidslayer
Name:
Khenthap 6’’ Cannon (1): Thanik, TFF
Djer 6’’ Cannon (2): Mandemon, Taricus
Khenthap-Djer Half Foot Cannon (2): Voidslayer, NAV