NJW2000: here you advocate lynching no-lynchers. What do you think about this now? You note that you don't think anyone in the no-lynch discussion seems especially scummy, so why do you still want to vote for them?
1)
I don't want a no-lynch. I've read a fair bit of reasoning on this, on bay12 and other mafia sites, and it seems like a nolynch d1 is a bad plan except in special circumstances, even if its practically at random. We have 13-2 (Me and codybob, neither of whom
I want to lynch, because it doesn't help town) =11 players, likely 3+ of these anti-town. Statistically, I think even a random lynch would be to Town's advantage in that situation. Also, nolynches mean less information for town, as I see it. So that's why I don't want a nolynch.
This has all been said before and better, but yunno, I was gonna give an ill-spoken rant about nolynches at some point.*
2)
Kingawesume and MS are advocating something I think is decidedly anti-town. This doesn't necessarily mean they're scum, it means they're wrong, from my POV. I find the explanation that they have different ideas and experience from most bay12 players fairly convincing: they seem like townies doing the wrong things, or scum hiding behind that facade pretty well. So I didn't have them as
much scummier than anyone else.
3)
Lynch 'em anyway. Even if they're not scummy, they're still advocating a bad tactic, which is anti-town in its consequences. We've also had a
lot of discussion about that, which hasn't put pressure on many people
except them, especially as most other people agree about nolynches. And if someone plays badly once, they might do it again, unless we lynch them. If someone is creating and has been creating not-very-useful discussion - lynch them and free up the daygame for scumhunting other people.
Granted, this is slightly poor ground for a lynch, and if someone seemed
scummy, I'd want to lynch that someone. But nobody has really stood out like that. Starver responded well to prodding, for example.
But I
still think that if I can't find someone I'm pretty sure is scum in the next four hours, lynching Max or King would be the next best option.
Oh, okay.
Ugh. I don't like it, but I'm tempted to leave a vote on Max to prevent a nolynch tie
Don't do this, you should provide your reasoning. You also have the option to vote Shakerag to break the tie - why not him?
My reasoning was that there were a couple of nolynch votes ( or maybe someone transferred, there hadn't been a votecount recently) and if I voted Max, it would take two people, not one, to make a Nolynch/Max tie.
Looking back, I was wrong, there was just one nolynch vote, because Max voted Shakerag. Tbh, I didn't really process that as important, (partly because I didn't expect that Shakerag could be lynched over Max) but you're right, Shake had two votes on him, I could have voted him. Then again, he hadn't been campaigning for a nolynch. Did I mention that I think we shouldn't do that?
*I've been trying not to get directly involved in nolynch debate, because I didn't think my voice would help much - I'm bad at persuasion and less informed and articulate than, say, Tiruin. I can generally say less in more words too.
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