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[Shadowdragon00]

A spider thingy titan is attacking me help!What should I do?

[Fleeting Frames]

For a webber, safest option is to run and wall off, then later bait it into a closed room where you can cave-in on him at your leisure.

It's very difficult for melee squads to even reach the titan on flat ground like the surface without being webbed and then dying by being kicked in the head.

[90908]

A couple of ranged squad might (emphasis on might) work, although I would personally suggest Fleeting Frame's suggestion first.

[PatrikLundell]

Basically Fleeting Frames' advice.

- Seal yourself in (and use a civilian alert burrow).
- Prepare a trap either for capture or kill. Kill might be hard, although cave-ins, obsidian casting, and repeating menacing spikes are good methods. Keeping it contained and letting it out to get killed by a goblin siege is an alternative (it will probably kill one or two goblins in the process).
- Open up so the Titan can reach the trap.

I generally make my fortresses with 4 access tunnels (only one is wide enough for wagons), each of which has a raising drawbridge at each end, plus a door at the inner side (there are cage traps in them as well, but those are useless against titans). With such a construction, open both the outer and inner drawbridges to allow the Titan to path to the fortress. Once it is inside the tunnel, order both drawbridges to be closed NOW!.
When the Titan nears the door, lock it (I don't think it matters). The door both serves as a target for its building destroying, as well as a means to delay it until the drawbridges get closed. If you don't have any repeating menacing spikes set up, you can either engineer a cave-in of the whole tunnel, or keep it locked in until the next siege.

If you hadn't prepared for attack, you can still dig your tunnel, but leave the ramp to the surface undug, build the drawbridges and the door, and then let a miner dig the last bit to the surface and then try to run for it. The miner may have to be sacrificed, however, unless you time it so that the Titan is chasing wildlife at the opposite end of the surface when you do it.

[Quarque]

The way I understood it, upright spike traps (with a lever to activate them repeatedly) will kill anything, "trap immune" or not. (Because they are triggered externally,  not by the creature itself.)

Imo this is an easier killing machine to construct than a controlled cave-in. However, I am not sure whether they are subject to the same crash bug as weapon traps in 43.05. Does anybody know this?

I would also like to know how to handle contaminated titan/fb bodies after you killed them. Does it help if your dwarves are wearing gloves/gauntlets, or is there a risk that the blood / extracts will still kill them? I do have a dwarven shower in my fortress (a waterfall / statue garden where dwarves will clean themselves when they're idle).

[PatrikLundell]

- I've never seen any wear on my menacing spike arrays.
- Repeating menacing spike traps will kill anything they can hurt: Green glass spikes vs. green glass FB achieved nothing over a number of seasons (but no damage to the spikes either). This does not mean there is proof the crash bug isn't present for them, though.
- Provided both hands and both feet are covered dorfs should be safe from blood and dust (on the floor/corpse: I assume you need a face mask or face veil to protect against flying stuff). However, you can't control whether the buggers decide to drop something just before going to pick up the corpse to pick up the replacement later. Footprints can spread contaminants, though, so a dwarven foot bath is the recommended mechanism for protecting the fortress.

My standard cavern air locks consist of two draw bridges with a door/bait just inside the inner bridge (i.e. inside the airlock), an empty space (where I could place a cage trap), a 10 spike menacing spike trap hooked to a lever controlled mine cart repeater, 3-4 cage traps (for GCS' and other desirable critters, with the door as a bait for them), and the outer bridge. As soon as the FB has entered the airlock both bridges are raised (NOW!) and the mine cart repeater is started (again NOW!). In most cases the FB is dead before it manages to destroy the door, and the door conveniently causes it to stand on top of the repeating spikes.
If the FB manages to destroy the door before getting killed it will pace back and forth and only occasionally get hit, but so far none that takes damage has survived that phase particularly long. In the cases where I get a non flesh FB that's unharmed by the spikes I usually engineer a cave-in over the whole interior of the airlock (which takes out the inner drawbridge, as I make mine two tile long to be able to see whether they're up or down). Also, no artifact or masterworks mechanisms should be used for either cages or bridges. Ideally, no masterworks cages should be used either, but that's too hard to control, so I just soak that shock up.

[escondida]

I've never encountered a problem with masterful cages, and I tend to make a lot of use of cage traps and sell any goods worse than Exceptional since dorfs value craftsdwarfship, so it's not from lack of use.

[MorsDux]

would this beast win if it would get rushed by 30-40 dwarves?

[thefinn]

would this beast win if it would get rushed by 30-40 dwarves?

Yep. Titans are made of metal. They are hard to damage, this one also has WEBS.

It'd be no-contest imo.

I'd send crossbows against something with webs, but a titan? useless.

[Fleeting Frames]

Titans are made of random thing. (It's bronze colossi who are always metal.) Can be metal, can be something ultra-fragile like ash or fire, in which case one-two crossbow bolts will kill it.

Anyway, Morsdux, depends on the placement and surprise factor of dwarves. I've killed at least one fleshy webber from ambush with melee squads and no injuries, but over an open field, rushing from 1 direction they have little chance. (Certainly not impossible, if titan is looking the other way and doesn't glance around, but even then it's easy to see good ambush turning into a wipe by a dodge/tank and webbing all dwarves at once, then kicking their heads in one by one.)

[PatrikLundell]

My comment regarding masterworks cages is that they'll get destroyed if I engineer a cave-in on top of them, and makers tend to get a shock for each masterworks item destroyed. It's generally not a big issue though, since it's a limited number of cages and the maker probably have made quite a few of them.

[Fleeting Frames]

At what point does it get rounded down to 0, I wonder?

[Quarque]

Probably at 2,147,483,647

[Fleeting Frames]

Like many things, like exact sub-tile position with minecarts (the reminder of movement gets cut off, so if you have a minecart that should move 1.9 subtiles it moves 1 instead), emotions in DF are tracked as integer values, though, and the penalty of bad thought from masterwork, while not something I know off-hand, is probably a lot less than 7 times more than enough to bring dwarf from ecstatic to insane from stress.

PS: Your link is borked.

[Hyndis]

If you so happen to have an artifact piece of furniture that is not a tile blocker (not a door, statue, or floodgate) you can use that as bait. Building destroyers, including titans and FB's, will try to smash it, but artifacts cannot be damaged.

They'll end up forever attacking but failing to damage the artifact furniture, pinning them in place. From here you can do with them as you wish, including the Cask of Amontillado approach using a machine to get the job done.

Also, do check what the creature is made out of. Some randomly generated beasts are so flimsy a kitten can kill them in one hit. Others are made out of things like steel. Good luck damaging that. I once put 10,000 bolts into a giant diamond tarantula. Thats 10,000 stuck-in bolts. The thing simply would not die. Fortunately because I had an artifact furniture as bait, it was able to be an effective marksdwarf training target.