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Tiruin - Lots of content but it's mostly theory. Possibly active-lurking/avoiding scumhunting? Moderately scummy.
juicebox - Essentially inactive day 1. Has good, well-reasoned posts day 2 but doesn't have much content in general. Mild town lean, but this could change with more content.
hector: reads?
Teneb: Reads? What makes you think there's a cult?
Reverie: Reads? Specifically, what do you think of juicebox and Teneb now?
Tiruin: I'd like to see your reads. Who do you find scummy? Do you still think me and juicebox are scummy?
Eww that's weak -_- "Mostly active lurking" WHEN I BASICALLY SAID I WAS AWAY FOR TWO DAYS.
I gave bloody dang reads on how active people were--with Rev topping it out and others not even touching that level of quality. I am basically stating as such like before that I cannot particularly detect scum leaning attitudes as I have felt, much like before, that they're being covert. Which is really feeling like the case at present :I
And yes I do
With the subtlety in present, I am looking at Reverie as Towny, Hector as totally weird but it would be strange to claim Witch with...no direction thereafter, as it prsents heat and focus, that which would be fully detrimental to a Witch-Mason team (if there's any other Witch team, please boop me--I've got Midterms for my Masters literally today, and on Saturday; today in the next 6 hours, AND I'M NOT BLOODY 'ACTIVE LURKING' :I)
That partially nudges me that you're looking for an easy target with those kinds of accusations you're putting out; when in doubt, accuse of lurking.
Especially if you go the middleman in trying to gauge some 'scummy' reads when you don't have substance to back it up.
It is FURTHER a contrary note that you label my actions as 'theorycrafting', when I've been pretty much placing the notion of what roles
exist therein. We're at a 6 player team, WHOLLY DIFFERENT than if people assume 'oh vanilla 2 scum in 9 person game' as we've got 2 THIRD PARTIES down, that ADJUSTS my variance of scum from 2 to 1, with possibility making a charismatic cultist--REGARDLESS of the Templar flip (the Templar flip made me consider the Cha. Cultist being a possibility a bit more, but I've had hunches because of thinking 'okay, 6 out of 9, 1 town dead, 2 Third parties dead; Shakerag died because people got his eyes and other sensory organs, no sign of Monster Hunter, no sign of Were-attack; OBVIOUSLY scum')
So it is weird that people are assuming Shakerag died to anything BUT scum.
Reverie - Not much substance until recently. Suggested a massclaim and has started to pressure people for stuff, but I want to see more. Mildly scummy (roughly tied with Teneb).
Wow seriously :v
She was the one prodding literally everyone till D1.
You getting your reads from a biased source of the recency effect, or what?
hector13 - mildly scummy for day 1 suspicion-without-voting, pressures Teneb today for stuff. Mild scum lean, but that might switch to a town lean by the end of the day.
Yeaaaaa how.
That doesn't match with Reverie's quality, and his 'switch town lean' isn't anywhere detailed in your post.
And you blue'd those two people! The OTHER TWO HOWEVER have less posts and less quality--and yet you don't touch them with a FoS, and leave them with the SAME 'mild scum lean'.
juicebox - Essentially inactive day 1. Has good, well-reasoned posts day 2 but doesn't have much content in general. Mild town lean, but this could change with more content.
...Oh wow, I'm reading juicebox's posts! They TOTALLY LACK A LOT IN THEM!
This is some good, well-reasoned posts there.
Inactive D1; total of 2 posts.
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ive, and I see a lack of 'well reasoned' in contrast to ALL OF OURS, being present. Unless you mean commonly reasoned, because people would clearly think 'oh okay, cha. cultist can convert N1, that's possible'.
AND YET HE IS WRONG WITH DETAILS IF PEOPLE READ BACK!
Well I would say that the evidence points to some non-cult scum out there. Flavorwise, it doesn't seem like Shakerag was killed by a townie, and the fact that nobody has claimed the kill seems to point in that direction also. Furthermore, based on past Supernatural games, I don't think the cult leader would have a kill. So it seems to me that there is some non-cultist scum out there, and that's who killed Shakerag.
> See: Supernatural 8. ANY CULT MEMBER CAN KILL.
If you mean a Cult Leader, See
Supernatural 6; Tiruin as Charismatic Cultist, I killed people :I
And, I have to explicitly mention--unless juicebox was referring to SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT CULTS, I have to mention that asking flavor is important and not """theorycrafting""",
I killed Cmega3 in Night 2, people were curious how she died,
I stole the body as mentioned in the N2 results. And while it was mentioned I used a bloody axe, while skipping merrily over to Jim's home in N3,
have consistent flavor.If you can say 'juicebox' is 'well reasoned', his reason is out the window in the cold, dark night.
And thus reinforcing that YOU aren't doing your READING either.
Unless you can back that up--correct me like a gentleman,
pistols at dawn, and then tell me what was the substance of your posts other than applying pressure to an otherwise seemingly 'lurking/active' "scumbag".
I don't get how timing works into a scumplan there, but in retrospect in thinking out that viewpoint you gave, I did think that it would be a bold move of a 1-man scumteam [I'm assuming the Cha.Cultist theory], or if a 2-man scumteam, a redirection while the ally works in the dark--inasfar as I assume, that could be possible too given the activity of others around here in general but its not something I'm leaning more on at the moment. <_<
I should first clarify that I don't believe that we have just one mafioso, I felt we ruled that out the moment Shakerag's killer never came forward (hence no cha. cultist).
OK :I
How?
You cannot rule out the LACK of a cha. cultist when their abilities match that of scum cultists (the vanilla type), or that of a generic mafia team that are cultists-in-flavor. The Charismatic Cultist merely has their ability of conversion prettymuch BEING the nightkill (see, that game I linked. I could only convert Toasty, while the others couldn't kill)
Because if SHakerag's killer came forward--in this 6 player setup, we'd have pretty much one OUTED killer. That leaves 5.
I am not a bloody killer, that leaves 4. (TAKE THIS NOTE EVEN IF YOU DOUBT IT :I I am not claiming a killing role, I am claiming an OP role)
Then there's a Witch claimant, that leaves 3 or 2, considering Witches are Masons and that's usually their only ability (again people poke me please).
And in that 3-2 people remaining, I get accused of 'theorycrafting' when people are rather softclaiming outwards in a way to glean information for those astute enough to follow those tracks .___.
So tell me, HOW is there, in anyway, some kind of superfluous nature in people claiming what they're claiming?
As for my argument against a single person scumteam, I equate those to conversion style teams, which judging by the lack of evidence supporting Shakerag's death as not a mafia nightkill, would squarely place the scumteam out of the realm of the conversion type. It's assumed that they can't kill and convert on the same night, after all.
We've got a whole library of Supernatural. Despite my horrible net, nobody else tried to track and match the flavor of said kill.
What I have seen in cult-like games where Mafia is flavored as cult (with no conversion powers)--decapitation or otherwise.
Supernatural 8; "cult" team,
origamiscienceguy, roo, spruce, killed ToonyMan N1,
birdy21 N2, and a consistent flavor since then.
Meph does not make unconsistent flavor because that messes with the regularity of details that are otherwise confidential anyway.
People put up the idea of "theorycrafting" (sounding like a mudslinging word), as if there's anything with it--then there's a lack of detail SUPPORTING why that, in this current context, makes a scummy mark.
I do not agree with you on the ghoul being actual scum though, more on that later.
I disagree with a Ghoul being scum too
given that I won a game as one, and decided to be good scum.
But there lies the problem--Ghouls win if everyone else is eaten
[that kinda bothered me back then in that game--but I managed to win with the last scummy werewolf
, because he decided to trust me \o/ ...I forgot the name and am trying to look for it, but it was nice... <_>]
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