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Author Topic: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)  (Read 8301 times)

Ardas

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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2017, 01:56:08 pm »

I never used Discord, not to mention that the focus of the game is on written word, not speech.
IRC is as simple as you can get, can be launched from a browser, I can keep logs and don't have to worry about control over the chat either - unless I am convinced it benefits the game to have it on Discord.

The core of the game will always be in here however, IRC s simply an auxiliary tool.

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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2017, 02:01:58 pm »

Oh, right, Discord supports voice. I wasn't suggesting we actually use our mouths- how uncouth.
Anyway, Discord is, like, super easy to use. It can be run in a browser, and it keeps logs going back for months (at least). And... well, it looks better than IRC, and has numerous little features that make it more pleasant to use (in my experience).
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2017, 02:16:52 pm »

IRC?
Did someone say Discord?
Also Ptw.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2017, 02:28:32 pm »

Riiight... I might check it out over the weekend, once the priorities are taken care of.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2017, 08:24:38 am »

Like, bam, here's a Discord server. It is almost insultingly easy to use.
https://discord.gg/FqQuwy7
I put a dicebot in there, figured it'd be useful. Anything else you might want to add/change can probably be done fairly easily.
And, not to harp on this, but it just looks nicer than IRC. Don't get me wrong, looks aren't everything. But it is a tie-breaker, innit?
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2017, 09:38:28 am »

Spoiler: Mavi Diventrade (click to show/hide)

First YAK game- will this suffice?
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2017, 01:48:07 pm »

Like, bam, here's a Discord server. It is almost insultingly easy to use.
https://discord.gg/FqQuwy7
I put a dicebot in there, figured it'd be useful. Anything else you might want to add/change can probably be done fairly easily.
And, not to harp on this, but it just looks nicer than IRC. Don't get me wrong, looks aren't everything. But it is a tie-breaker, innit?

It does look nicer, although some IRC clients - KiwiIRC, for one - on the web are also honestly fine looking. Part of the issue is that quite a few of the people involved in the old games / in designing this one are plain old used to IRC, and keep logs there. The logs are also eternal and undying, and you can get a fair bit of customization if you use downloadable IRC clients.

Honestly, I can understand not wanting to let us stuffy old people living in the past hold everyone else back, but I would personally prefer to stick to IRC for convenience, if the only argument in favor of Discord is the look.

Sidenote: I think Discord's 'scroll up' log system is really inconvenient for talk-intensive sessions, makes it hard to find something specific once the game's been going for a few weeks. KVIRC and other IRC engines like IceChat keep logs by date, and if you're really in a hurry you can even search for a specific line of text. That's on top of being saved locally and as such lasting forever.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2017, 01:58:15 pm »

Discord also has a very useful search feature that can be used to sift through the logs if you know what you're looking for. Even if you don't it can get you incredibly close with the use of keywords.

I've never used IRC, and only recently started using discord. It has a great deal of functionality and ease of use. I managed to be able to use it right of the bat and came to understand most of it's functionality through just using it. It was both easy and natural.

As far as actual retention of logs, as far as I can tell, discord doesn't delete anything and you can use the search function to find anything and everything dating all the way back to the first post. However I have not been in any discord threads with years of use or millions of posts, so I cannot speak as to the true height of its data retention.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2017, 02:06:09 pm »

As a fellow old man I'd be happy to use IRC if someone can recommend an app which requires very little input.

Either way we can drop stuff in forum anyway.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2017, 02:29:54 pm »

https://kiwiirc.com/ is sleek and stylish. Web-based gold standard. Its only downside against Discord (if you're not using voices) is that it doesn't keep logs as far as I know. KVIRC also works fairly well, but needs a download and doesn't look fantastic if you don't bother to customize it. It keeps logs by date, like I said.

Neither of them keep logs for people who weren't connected at the time, although honestly I'm not sure that's a big downside. We'll be posting game logs, and sometimes it can be good for casual discussion to stay, so to say, off the record. Not that anyone will be scheming, or anything.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2017, 03:10:18 pm »

The decision to use IRC is motivated mainly by the ability to roleplay some of the stuff in real time and by log-keeping, as Shoot said.

Like stated before, do not feel obliged to join or use the chat, but it will streamline some of the things we had problems with in previous games.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2017, 04:43:32 pm »

Neither of them keep logs for people who weren't connected at the time, although honestly I'm not sure that's a big downside. We'll be posting game logs, and sometimes it can be good for casual discussion to stay, so to say, off the record. Not that anyone will be scheming, or anything.
I consider that a fairly substantial downside, frankly. The ability to go back and read things that happened whilst you were gone is well useful.
I mean, if you want something to stay off-record on Discord, you could either message someone one-one, or if you've multiple folks involved, get a mod to set you up with a channel, and give you and your co-conspirators roles with access to it.

Also, IRC doesn't allow periods in nicknames.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2017, 04:51:36 pm »

Without turning this into a technical discussion about Discord vs IRC,  but either chat cannot be held valid without GM present, which is the point of having a game.

I will try to work things for a proper start this weekend, so do not hesitate with your apps!

Tack, your app looks good, if a bit too on the nose with the spying... but hey, at least you have an archetype narrowed down so you know what you'll be playing!
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2017, 06:36:03 am »

PTW.
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Re: You are King! - Crown of the North [OOC] (Recruiting players!)
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2017, 10:08:34 am »

The IC is up, you may begin.

All applied players are in. Go forth and may the best one among you become the king!

I am still working on a map and the economy table for you guys, but those aren't important just yet.
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