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Kagus

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The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« on: April 24, 2008, 12:21:00 pm »

Boy, I'm full of challenges.  P'ticularly those aboveground ones.


Settle in a temperate area that has a decent time period where water remains frozen (no year-round freeze maps allowed, there must be a thaw).  Assure that you have an ample water supply, be it through river or aquifer.

Using whatever means you decide best, dig out the ice during winter time and build an aboveground castle using only those ice blocks.  Marvel at your bastion of winter when spring rolls around, and feel pride as the ice castle weathers through the heat of summer before finally bringing forth the snow once again.


NOTE:  I'm not sure if this is actully possible. I assume that the construction immunity to damage will hold true for ice walls and floors, but I have done absolutely no testing to see if this is even remotely possible.  I don't even know if frozen water sources will yield ice boulders when mined out, or if that's unique to glacier ice.

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 01:09:00 pm »

Frozen water sources WILL yield ice. The rest I don't know...
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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 02:59:00 pm »

I'm pretty sure i read on the wiki that ice buildings will melt when the warm rolls around.
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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 03:01:00 pm »

Amusingly enough, ice walls won't melt when exposed to magma; I had more than a few "Warm Damp Rough Water Wall"s in my glacier fortress.
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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 03:03:00 pm »

For bonus points do this in a map without an infinite water source.
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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 03:29:00 pm »

In the wiki, it is said that the ice buildings will melt during a thaw, leaving 7/7 water squares.

Flood.

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 04:05:00 pm »

I once built an ice ramp as a temporary way for my dwarves to access the next Z-level outdoors. I got my construction finished before winter ended and I expected the ramp to melt, leaving things nice and neat. The area where I built it, however, was muddy from a flooding earlier that year, and so the mud apparently protected the ice from melting.

...Anyway, what I'm geting at here is that muddy ice doesn't melt. This may be a bug.

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 04:39:00 pm »

So theoretically...
If we made stone crafts, and had water flow over them to make them wet, they would be protected from melting?

Man, this makes as much sense as biscuits made from beer.

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2008, 05:02:00 pm »

Why not in a winter all-year map?

Or turn temperature off, that may prevent it from melting. As a bonus turn cave-ins off and build a floating crystal fortress. (Haha)

[ April 24, 2008: Message edited by: Red Jackard ]

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2008, 09:06:00 pm »

Buildings and constructions are different object types.  Buildings can be destroyed by trolls, melted, and all of these things.  Constructions can only be harmed by cave-ins (even then, a constructed wall will not break when something falls on top of it).
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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 03:00:00 am »

If you're going to be in a year-round winter map, you may as well do an Inuit challenge.  This is (was) supposed to be a symbol of the everlasting power of winter, a bastion of frost in the warmer lands.


Still though.  An ice castle in any location is still an ice castle, and is thus incredibly cool.

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 03:02:00 am »

Gotcha. So:
 
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turn temperature off

(I'm uncertain if this is any different than a winter map, really.)

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 03:23:00 am »

I wasn't aware that constructed ice walls would melt with the coming of the warmer seasons.  If you're going to turn temperature off, you may as well just build it in a freezing map and save yourself the trouble of switching it on and off repeatedly.

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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 04:55:00 am »

What about a crystal fortress made out of glass or crystal?
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Re: The Crystal Fortress Challenge
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 06:18:00 am »

Too damned difficult...  I get tired even thinking about suggesting it.
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