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[helmacon]

Design: Royal Tzeentch Fuck Up

We get some of the dudes royal fucked up on Tzeentch. Mutations, magic, the whole 9 yards.

[Tack]

First off... Nine yards exactly.
Secondly, I'm a fan of facetiousness but I still need to know what you're after... You want to make a type of squad?

[helmacon]

Yea, I was talking squad type, or at least specialists we could add to a squad. Originally I was thinking horrors, but I don't think they actualy come from people, and I don't want to get to summoning things straight up yet. Sorta psuedo horrores then? Abomination light?

[Archangel]

I think you might be looking for Chaos Spawn.

Chaos Spawn are creatures which have become so mutated through their servitude to Chaos they have devolved into twisted and insane abominations.

Those seeking immortality and power through Daemonhood face the constant possibility of being reduced to Chaos Spawn, either by accumulating too many mutations or being cast aside by their Chaos patrons as unworthy.

Also, the name and description you gave are both rather... underwhelming.

[Taricus]

Yeah, generally we're going to want to avoid the abomination route. Even just designing things like that will bring inquisitorial heat on us, as I presume it is that line of thinking which is bringing the ordo xenos down on the genestealer's heads.

[Archangel]

Yes, Taricus, for the record I think there are much better things we could spend our time on than deliberately invoking something that is usually a hazard of service to the Ruinous Powers.

Of the things suggested for this turn, Corporate Infiltration seems to me the best bet. It is likely to improve our access to resources and make it easier to create or acquire Imperial tech; and it might help us when we do things like try to subvert other institutions.

It seems to me that we don't really have any focus to our plans at present, and instead we are just making it up as we go along. What goals do we want to aim for right now? Getting Alpha Legion aid is a good one, but what else?
I think we should work towards getting psykers and developing our magic; it is one of the strengths of non-Khornate Chaos worshippers, especially Tzeentchians like us, so we need to take advantage of it.

[Taricus]

The problem with that is... well, Tzeentch being overly 'generous' with that sort of gift and psykery likely setting off the inquisition's alarm bells. Not really a strength when we need to stay covert. More to the point I'd like to put off any training designs until we get the alpha legion in to assist with the training if we can.

As for corporate infiltration, it won't get us near as much tech as infiltrating the AdMech, nor as much ability to influence the manufacturing on the planet unless we infiltrate every single one. Rather the big benefit, aside from getting us some more resources, is essentially the social role. How many followers we would get if we improved working conditions in those factories is pretty staggering. Infiltration designs would definitely benefit from the assistance of the alpha legion though.

[Khan Boyzitbig]

I think that a grand design should be something like bringing an entire legion into the spire in one single ritual. Yes that would draw the inquisition, but if they haven't been alerted prior to the ritual they won't have anywhere near the manpower on site to stop it.

Infiltrating the Adeptus Mechanicus would also be a good target. Any infiltration would be good right now.

[Taricus]

I don't think we're gonna be bringing in an entire legion's worth of space marines, but insofar contacting them is going to be a grand project unto itself, hence why it's put down as a grand project.

[helmacon]

I think you might be looking for Chaos Spawn.

Naw. Chaos spawn are basically just mutation beasts. I guess I want champions that are not quite chaos spawn yet?

Actually, just champions. Thats a good place to start. Champions of Tzeentch.


Another thing we could do is infiltrate administration and use the position to suppress reports of chaos and exaggerated reports of the buggers. If the other guys are already pulling alarm at this stage, they are either massively overreaching or it's much more sensitive than we thought. Probably the second, so we ought to set some safe guards up for ourselves.

[Tack]

So, Possessed?

[Taricus]

Given what I know from discord, it's the former. So long as we don't do anything stupid, like going full psyker or making that-which-shall-not-be-named, we'll stay out of the inquisition's sights.

[helmacon]

possessed marines, but not marines. Daemon hosts, but not psykers. Cultists+

Basically this. Yes.

[Taricus]

Again, read my post above as to why that's a pretty bad idea. If not just a downright horrible one.

[piratejoe]

Going for infiltration of the Mechanicus or the guys in control of the factories sounds like a very very good thing. Im willing to support either, as it will bring us closer to getting past PDF levels and into IG levels, maybe even getting flashlights and possibly even a Leman Russ tank, seeing how they are basically the IG's crutch.