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[Redjive_Industries]

On an entirely unrelated note...
Anyone super excited that Valkyria Chronicles 4 (also known as the first VC game for PC since VC1) is finally out? I know I am!
I also know that I won't be eating this week.

[Ozarck]

I don't see a thread related tothat in Other Games. You could post one there and gather up whoever on Bay 12 is fans of that game for a nice chat.

[Redjive_Industries]

Shame I have work in an hour. I'll do that once work is done.

[Ozarck]

Ed did tell Tala to stop interfering.

[Tiruin]

Ed did tell Tala to stop interfering.

Are you rubbing this in or what? :v Because that's not related AT ALL to what had happened.

[Ozarck]

really? Tala interfering is not related at all to what happened? You and I are reading a very different turn resolution then.

[SaberToothTiger]

Poke me when I'll regain the use of my legs, please.

[Tiruin]

really? Tala interfering is not related at all to what happened? You and I are reading a very different turn resolution then.

Me trying to do actions and be proactive isn't interfering--I've had the idea that you were talking about me and Simon, but there was 0 clarity at all, or on why you said that. >_<
You could say "Please move back", even add a "You're better needed elsewhere", or even just a blunt "I don't want you going in there."

Instead I get a "Stop interfering."

That's pretty clearly connected to what happened. Because Radio didn't open the door. Because I somehow caused something there?

:V
I'm unsure if you sometimes see things from the other person's perspective But I'm sleep deprived. I don't get how that was at all connected to Piece's surprise if there was nothing else said. It makes it easy to say "I told you so", and that can rub the wrong way at times.

[Ozarck]

Tala already prevented Ed from communicating with teh Woman at least once, and has interfered with Radio's attempts as well.
Stop interfering, when she's already gotten in the way of what we had already been doing, is a perfectly legitimate response.
Entering the room (part of your bolded and spoken intention) is the exact opposite of not interfering.
note the timestamps for that set of actions. Mine and Radio's were far ahead fo your own, and there was but an hour nad a half between your post and the turn - an hour and a half in which I was asleep so I couldn't respond.

I feel like I need to start explicitly mentioning you in my posts:
a) even if Tala says don't do the thing, do the thing.
b) if she resists, make it an opposed action rather than just doing it her way
c) Prevent Tala from doing anything regarding the thing Ed is doing. Shoo her away, by force if necessary.

You did this in the previous mission as well.

[Redjive_Industries]

Poke me when you guys are done arguing pointlessly with each other.

[Ozarck]

Poke me when you guys are done arguing pointlessly with each other.

You'll be waiting a long time for that, fella.

And once Ti and I are done, sy will start up.

Arguing isn't an event, it's a state of Being.

[Redjive_Industries]

*insert SAForums popcorn lawn chair and drink emote*

[syvarris]

I'm unsure if you sometimes see things from the other person's perspective

Don't worry about him, Tir, that is indeed not a malady Ozymandias suffers from.  Just ignore him, he'll calm down in about a week or so.

[Tiruin]

Tala already prevented Ed from communicating with teh Woman at least once, and has interfered with Radio's attempts as well.
Stop interfering, when she's already gotten in the way of what we had already been doing, is a perfectly legitimate response.

I hope you know that I've not even known I've prevented anyone from communicating with people?
Seriously if this was a thing then why wasn't it mentioned anytime beforehand and left to brood and grudge up? I'm a person who really values communication and I'm totally unaware that you were feeling that way here, and sorry for that.

Also if Radio was in anyway feeling interrupted, he'd tell me. Totally because from my eye, we're friends \o/ (And that he'd talk about anything bothering him anyway, since we've been in battle and otherwise situations even before 888th)

[Ozarck]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=post;quote=7857160;topic=164122.2725

relevant bit:

Ed will go with Tala to the central room, collect viscera from the fridge, dump it in the dust and then step out of the room, and ask for information about 'SturmTurm.' Specifically, ask for locations of Sturmturm research holes.

Spoiler: Edward Bohring (click to show/hide)

Description: average height, average build, brown hair, brown eyes, plain face.
0   Physical
0 (-1)   Mental
0   Life

Stats:
2 Dexterity
2 Will
1 Senses
Skills:
3 mechanic
2 tank
2 trap
1 camouflage
1 operator
1 demolitions
Inventory:

Universal Equipment:
1 First Aid Pouch (Allows First Aid. Single use)
1 Entrenching Tool (A folding shovel)
1 Ration (Restores up to -2 on physical dice)
1 Clicker
2 L type Flashlights
1 Sewing kit
1 Mirror
1 razor set
1 Bar of soap
1 Toothpaste and toothbrush set
1 compressed TP roll
1 Pack of Chesterfield Cigarettes(9/9)
1 Lighter
1 Mess kit
1 Knit cap
1 Notepad and Pen
1 Haversack
1 Gunbelt with Magazine pouches
1 Canteen and Cup
1 Compass
1 pair spare socks, wool, warm

Engineer’s Equipment
Mechanic’s tools
Trap making Kit
3 2 Satchel Charges (Risk 7) (1 used in IED)
1 gas grenade, courtesy of Tala

Knife (Risk 2)

Gewehr (10 ammo) (looted from Organ transport truck)
nazi talisman (looted from Organ transport truck)
Nazi Commander Luger  7/8 ammo (Risk 2)
One of the Nazi angular guns that Simon looted (I believe this is in use by Radio at this time)
Nazi Officer's Uniform, gently used
One fancy (Nylon!) hat with ear flaps
1 comically oversized rubber ducky (0  GLORY)

505 GLORY

One fully autonomous Radio:

Pretty sure I gave it to Oz since he was the first to answer.  Not that he can't be used by multiple people. 

Spoiler: mission briefing (click to show/hide)

We've been tasked with helping clear a section of city and then to remove the "Fort du Roule", a heavily fortified hill top bunker, from the list of enemy held positions.
Its position on the hilltops above the city makes it too good of a strategic position for them to just bomb it to gravel.
Taking it won't be easy though; its got at least 5 heavily fortified firing positions and a tunnel system in the stone.
Intelligence indicates there's an entrance on the west side of the mountain, though getting to it might be harder than just getting to one of those fortified positions and blasting on through. Your call.

We're going to drop you off by boat and the local boys will bring you where you need to go. We're told they'll have a map for you but don't expect anything amazing.

This is a simple job, lads: Kill any Kraut that still has some fight in him, spare any citizen of the town, and try to keep that fort as intact as possible."  He waves his hand dismissively at that last part, but doesn't say anything more.

Tala tapped Radioman or anyone else who could translate, as she wondered if she said something wrong. It had the gist of the 'Central room' anyway.


"Any update from command? We'd need advice before we proceed, because this is the last and final place that is left uncertain. Also, another one of my random ideas to pass the time--that storm over this bunker fortress? It was all to destroy what's in it, either because this is very valuable but exotic or alien (that strange dust?), or it has failed and is going to destroy everything. I doubt the latter because the Nazis aren't on important ground. But they did defend this to the presumable last man.

"Carolina, we need as much information from the garrisonee as possible please. I think I may have offended him."

Order someone to restrain the prisoner safely. And by that I mean to retranslate to him "We're going to take care of you." or however they would do it if they act without words.

And then order some folks (mostly the AFKers) to get ready them flamethrowers, my gas grenade, and WAIT LET'S NOT PROCEED JUST YET.

"After the organs were dumped in there and after anyone exited the room safely, the speaker spoke in some ancient language that I just described. Radio, and anyone else, try and wrack that knowledge bank or contact command about what language it is. It is either important to the Nazis, or from wherever all those tie-ins, with symbols, child-organ harvesting (as much as I hate saying that), and other cultist sensibility comes from. You people, enter the central room; the rest of us are going on watch--there was no trap or harm as far as I saw in the video."

OK, either order some AFK person to check the central room (someone with SENSE skill), or await as others do check in there. Otherwise, just overwatch and recheck the area we're in for any suitable items I could grab pertinent to the experiment, like aprons and anything I can infer from that video, etc.

Like finding where that speaker system is, and telling our mechanic to test it up before anyone goes in.

Spoiler: My Sheet (click to show/hide)

Glory: 190
Weapons:
(E) Scoped Springfield M1903 A4 [5/5]; [5/10 ammunition total] {With a white cloth tied to it}
Silenced Pistol [8/8]; [8/8 ammunition total]

Equipped Weapon Skill: +3 [+0 if used in Melee/+0 in HtH]

Name: Tala Agata
Description: Tala was enlisted alongside her kin, for their renown in sharpshooting and rugged terrain survival. Being the one who had taught Joan how to shoot, she was only a year her senior before they had been separated in different brigades. She was recently transferred to the 888th after the Normandy landings.
Physical: -
Mental: -1
Life: - {+Helmet}
Stats:
Speed: +1
Dexterity: +1
Will: +1
Knowledge: +1
Senses: +1

Skills:
+3 Sniper rifle
+2 First Aid
+2 Medical Training
+1 Camouflage
+1 Pistol
+1 Languages

Inventory:

Scoped Springfield M1903 A4 (5 shot, risk 5 at long range, risk 3 at medium, risk 2 at close)
2 springfield magazines
Binoculars

*Medic Bag
*Helmet {+1 Life}
*Silenced Pistol [8/8]
*Smoke Grenades (2)
*Military Beret
*Customized Gasmask
*CS Gas Grenades (2) [Edward has one of them]

Probably a lot of tinfoil
2 Medic Bags {3 total}
Mundane Journalism Uniform
A few pens, which can be used as lockpicks

1 First Aid Pouch (Allows First Aid. Single use)
1 Entrenching Tool (A folding shovel)
1 Ration (Restores up to -2 on physical dice)
1 Clicker
1 L type Flashlight
1 Sewing kit
1 Mirror
1 razor set
1 Bar of soap
1 Toothpaste and toothbrush set
1 compressed TP roll
1 Pack of Chesterfield Cigarettes
1 Lighter
1 Mess kit
1 Knit cap
1 Notepad and Pen
1 Haversack
1 Gunbelt with Magazine pouches
1 Canteen and Cup
1 Compass

Looks like Tala cockblocks the demon summoning for now.

Instead she has people watch over the prisoner. She also has...people "Get ready them flamethrowers". Hm

You really have no clue that you bold texting actions to prevent others from doing things prevents others from doing things?

irritation expressed:http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=post;quote=7857639;topic=164122.2725

I don't recall asking Tala if I could throw gibbets at the unholy ash beast. Ah whatever, test the mechanicals of like, everything mechanical around. All of it. keep testing, starting from the center room, then to the ring room, then out form there, ending with the elevator. Once I am satisfied as to the condition of all the mechanicals, Throw Tala to the demon and ask for three questions.

((That part about throwing Tala to the Demon is a joke, but I'm going to leave it bolded anyway.))

Spoiler: Edward Bohring (click to show/hide)

Description: average height, average build, brown hair, brown eyes, plain face.
0   Physical
0 (-1)   Mental
0   Life

Stats:
2 Dexterity
2 Will
1 Senses
Skills:
3 mechanic
2 tank
2 trap
1 camouflage
1 operator
1 demolitions
Inventory:

Universal Equipment:
1 First Aid Pouch (Allows First Aid. Single use)
1 Entrenching Tool (A folding shovel)
1 Ration (Restores up to -2 on physical dice)
1 Clicker
2 L type Flashlights
1 Sewing kit
1 Mirror
1 razor set
1 Bar of soap
1 Toothpaste and toothbrush set
1 compressed TP roll
1 Pack of Chesterfield Cigarettes(9/9)
1 Lighter
1 Mess kit
1 Knit cap
1 Notepad and Pen
1 Haversack
1 Gunbelt with Magazine pouches
1 Canteen and Cup
1 Compass
1 pair spare socks, wool, warm

Engineer’s Equipment
Mechanic’s tools
Trap making Kit
3 2 Satchel Charges (Risk 7) (1 used in IED)
1 gas grenade, courtesy of Tala

Knife (Risk 2)

Gewehr (10 ammo) (looted from Organ transport truck)
nazi talisman (looted from Organ transport truck)
Nazi Commander Luger  7/8 ammo (Risk 2)
One of the Nazi angular guns that Simon looted (I believe this is in use by Radio at this time)
Nazi Officer's Uniform, gently used
One fancy (Nylon!) hat with ear flaps
1 comically oversized rubber ducky (0  GLORY)

505 GLORY

One fully autonomous Radio:

Pretty sure I gave it to Oz since he was the first to answer.  Not that he can't be used by multiple people. 

Spoiler: mission briefing (click to show/hide)

We've been tasked with helping clear a section of city and then to remove the "Fort du Roule", a heavily fortified hill top bunker, from the list of enemy held positions.
Its position on the hilltops above the city makes it too good of a strategic position for them to just bomb it to gravel.
Taking it won't be easy though; its got at least 5 heavily fortified firing positions and a tunnel system in the stone.
Intelligence indicates there's an entrance on the west side of the mountain, though getting to it might be harder than just getting to one of those fortified positions and blasting on through. Your call.

We're going to drop you off by boat and the local boys will bring you where you need to go. We're told they'll have a map for you but don't expect anything amazing.

This is a simple job, lads: Kill any Kraut that still has some fight in him, spare any citizen of the town, and try to keep that fort as intact as possible."  He waves his hand dismissively at that last part, but doesn't say anything more.

Your lack of knowledge that this was an issue is on you, not on me.