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Karlito

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Re: aquifer pumping?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2007, 07:48:00 pm »

I have succeeded in walling off a portion of the aquifer.  Things are going easier now that I can make stone blocks.    :)  I also succeeded in digging down to stone below the aquifer, but it flooded immediately.  It seems to me that the benefits of an aquifer map are next to zero.  I think that they will become invaluable when siegers attempt to tunnel into you base because there is no way that Toady could make the AI drain an aquifer.

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ZombieRacoon

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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2007, 06:07:00 am »

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because there is no way that Toady could make the AI drain an aquifer.

I wonder if that will set off Toady's 'that sounds like a challenge' alarm bell.

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Salamander

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2007, 07:26:00 am »

Just thought I'd mention it, since not many have noticed it yet.  Screw pumps can be made using glass blocks.  On the aquifer map I have been playing on, I made pumps out of purely a mixture of glass and wooden components.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2007, 07:29:00 am »

Actually, the latest version contains wooden blocks, which work fine in screw pumps.
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Vengeful Donut

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2007, 08:13:00 am »

Aquifer solution. No stone and no ice. http://rapidshare.com/files/66932050/Aquifer.cmv.html
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Earthquake Damage

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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2007, 08:48:00 am »

Wait.  So it's possible to have a salt water aquifer?  That might explain my trouble getting drinking water near the ocean, even with an aquifer.  Either dwarves can't drink from a channel (and I don't have chain/rope for a well) or the aquifer's all salty.
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Javewa

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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2007, 08:50:00 am »

I've tried to drain the aquifer by tunneling from the cliff side and created a nice waterfall. But that's about it so far, as the water doesn't seem to drain much. The waterfall has been running for two years now.

Is this method even possible or does the water regenerate somewhere within the aquifer?

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Earthquake Damage

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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2007, 10:02:00 am »

As I understand it, all aquifer tiles are portals to the elemental plane of water.  You can probably stop the flood by mining literally every aquifer tile on the map, but that'd be an epic task.  I'm talking trials of Hercules style, only you're not Hercules.  You're a short fat man with a beard.
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Asehujiko

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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2007, 11:09:00 am »

Can hercules fit an elephant in the space of a kitten without harming either? No, he can't.

There will be people who come up with enough clever ideas to mine out an ocean. And put it inside a wooden shack.

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Talith

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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2007, 07:29:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Vengeful Donut:
<STRONG>Aquifer solution. No stone and no ice. http://rapidshare.com/files/66932050/Aquifer.cmv.html</STRONG>

Just tried this method, and while it does indeed work for the first aquifer level, i would like to know what the method is to get passed the second level using this method.

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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2007, 07:37:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Earthquake Damage:
<STRONG>As I understand it, all aquifer tiles are portals to the elemental plane of water.  You can probably stop the flood by mining literally every aquifer tile on the map, but that'd be an epic task.  I'm talking trials of Hercules style, only you're not Hercules.  You're a short fat man with a beard.</STRONG>

wouldnt work the very edge squares of the map cannot be mined.

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Earthquake Damage

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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2007, 01:27:00 am »

Touché.
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Merlon

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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2007, 09:04:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Talith:
<STRONG>

Just tried this method, and while it does indeed work for the first aquifer level, i would like to know what the method is to get passed the second level using this method.</STRONG>



Here's two ways: How-to: Get past the aquifer with pumps
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Vengeful Donut

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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2007, 01:32:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Talith:
<STRONG>

Just tried this method, and while it does indeed work for the first aquifer level, i would like to know what the method is to get passed the second level using this method.</STRONG>


it's a method to "protect" a square of a given size. just create a square of a size large enough to fit the same type of setup on the level below
eg:
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By powering it from above, the pump system for a 1x1 staircase can fit inside a 9x9 block. [for a 3x3 it would be an 11x11 block]
So instead of sealing a 3x3 square for the first level, you would seal a 9x9 (or 11x11 if you want a 3x3 shaft) square.
If you need to go through 3 levels of aquifer (god forbid) and dont have a way to freeze or magma the water, then you could wall off a 15x15 square on the first level, a 9x9 on the second level, and a 1x1 on the third.
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2007, 05:21:00 pm »

Man, that relies on some real handwavium...

1) Perpetual motion machines.
2) Pumps consuming water even though there is no room to pump it into.

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