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[blueturtle1134]

Also, do realize that you are endangering everyone in London. If they bring a wormhole back with them, and the rebels destabilize our end, then, well...

...bye-bye Henry.

Not our fault. We can warn them to set it up in some uninhabited region, anyway, or on a buoy out in the sea, accessible by boat. Problem solved.

Revealing the destabilization weakness, however, might reveal the existence of andantesite if they demand to know how it happens. We can just go with a generic "hazardous!" claim, which might work.

More votes anyone?

[Glass]

Also, do realize that you are endangering everyone in London. If they bring a wormhole back with them, and the rebels destabilize our end, then, well...

...bye-bye Henry.

Not our fault. We can warn them to set it up in some uninhabited region, anyway, or on a buoy out in the sea, accessible by boat. Problem solved.

Revealing the destabilization weakness, however, might reveal the existence of andantesite if they demand to know how it happens. We can just go with a generic "hazardous!" claim, which might work.

More votes anyone?

It's a hole in space. No shit it's a hazard.

[blueturtle1134]

Also, do realize that you are endangering everyone in London. If they bring a wormhole back with them, and the rebels destabilize our end, then, well...

...bye-bye Henry.

Not our fault. We can warn them to set it up in some uninhabited region, anyway, or on a buoy out in the sea, accessible by boat. Problem solved.

Revealing the destabilization weakness, however, might reveal the existence of andantesite if they demand to know how it happens. We can just go with a generic "hazardous!" claim, which might work.

More votes anyone?

It's a hole in space. No shit it's a hazard.

And yet we're totally fine with leaving it in the middle of our capital city and most important military base.

But yeah, we'll warn them to put it somewhere they won't miss.

[Glass]

Well, our side and their side are basically the two points of failure. And ours is heavily guarded. If that side gets destabilized, then we probably already have some huge problems.

[blueturtle1134]

Well, our side and their side are basically the two points of failure. And ours is heavily guarded. If that side gets destabilized, then we probably already have some huge problems.

But you're going to want Europe's help in rebuilding if your capital city suddenly becomes a hole. IF it comes to that. Which it will which is up to the plot.

[Paxiecrunchle]

I think BCAA might be fine.

[omada]

About wormhole, err... if we are going to offer our Brazilian one (that will make easier a bit for the rebels) at least make sure they will put it top secret, only government business, because they already has less tech, a future rebel may find it easier to go there to destabilize.

Otherwise or i suggest to don't talk about it, or offer them how they can do that.

teaching them to do their own wormholes can be good and bad

Cons: They might use it to communicate freely between them and use that to deal with us when we go all conquering stuff
The issue off protection is still there

Pros: Good relationship,
When we go conquering stuff we can explode half of their bases and go overtake their government to "save the taxpayers citizens"

Being enigmatic about the electricity is okay, we still might use this to get an upper hand in commerce. And they might reveal what weird resource the Northern people have in this parallel reality

CCAB
or CBAB

[Tyrant Leviathan]

CAAB

Change the electric bote tomA (the last)'and got my vote.


For future reference I think we should make a underground super stronghold away from rebels due to wormhole issues, warn Brits of risk and maybe ask them to help with rebel scum. I hate rebel scum.

[blueturtle1134]

We're tied A/B on electricity. Anyone care to tiebreak?

[blueturtle1134]

No? Alright. Heads is A, tails is B

We have CAAA.


After a times, Erin Quill arrives from Antarctica to greet Magellan in person. After some initial exchanges regarding their history, the explorers are taken to Brazil High Command (secret military base in the mountains) while their ship is inspected to get an idea of their technological progress.

QUILL: Apologies for all the precautions. We've had issues with rebels in this area lately, but this place remains secure.

MAGELLAN: Rebels?

QUILL: Civil buildings burnt down, innocent people taken hostage, brave men gutted like fish, scientific knowledge destroyed or looted, that sort of thing.

MAGELLAN: Savages!

QUILL: (enters into a room and flicks on the lights) Nothing that can't be taken care of, of course. Here's the main meeting room.

MAGELLAN: What are these strange lamps that you use?

QUILL: That? That's electricity. Don't you - oh well. It can be generated and stored and used for light, heating, propulsion… you have lightning where you live, right?

MAGELLAN: You mean to say that your people see by bottled lighting?

QUILL: In a manner of speaking, yes. The particulars are somewhat different, but we will be certain to send a description of our methods and knowledge back with you.

MAGELLAN: That would revolutionize the whole of Europe - tell me, is there anything more you have to show me?

QUILL: Well… do you want to see the hole through the fabric of space and time?

MAGELLAN: Say what?

QUILL: Come on here.


So Magellan’s agreed to take the Brazilian End of Erin’s Oracle to Europe to maintain communications for us. Obviously security must be maintained, lest the rebels intercept it in transport and BOOM! There are a few things working against this, however.

Firstly, as I’ve mentioned, the wormhole containment structure is around five feet wide and ten feet tall. It’s actually two conical shapes pointed at each other. The wormhole has been deactivated for the time being, meaning that it can be contained just by the simple generators integrated into the base, but disassembly of the device for even an instant would mean BOOM!

The wormhole is currently contained in an underground complex made of stone and metal. A large part of it will have to be disassembled to allow it out. A lot of work is going to have to be done and lots of rope will be needed to lift it out. Nobody knows about this base and it is in a secret location within Argentina’s mountains, but you’re going to have to get it to the coast without attracting attention.

First, describe how you’re going to cover up the wormhole moving, and what kind of guards you’re going to assign to the project.

Also, a route must be chosen.

A: Magellan’s fleet is docked at his eponymous straits. It is well known that Republic engineers are making some adjustments to ensure his safe voyage home. We could simply wheel the wormhole down to the Straits and install it. There is a small settlement at the docking site, so civilian interference is unlikely, but moving the wormhole down a mountain is going to be hard. Installation could run into issues, and transport will be unwieldy and easy to ambush.
B: We could have Magellan re dock at our regional capital and install the wormhole there. The roads and equipment at the capital are good enough to quickly and securely move the wormhole. This, however, would require a rather good cover story to avoid media attention.
C: Magellan could proceed on his journey and we could drag the wormhole to an uninhabited spot on the west coast to install it. Nobody would know that we are there. However, it's going to take a really long time, and if someone does catch on then the open fields and beaches of the Brazilian coastline will provide no cover at all.
D: There's a well known mountain pass and bay where we could send the wormhole down. It's a relatively easy road and there's a research station under construction near the bay, which would provide a perfect reason for a large box of metal and equipment to be brought there. Magellan could easily dock out of sight, and nobody important goes there. It's close to Rebel activity, though.

[Glass]

Hmm...
You said the research station construction is near rebel activity, yes? Could we say that, as a precaution to prevent the rebels from stealing anything, we're relocating that construction to a different location (that just so happens to be a good pickup spot for Magellan)?

[Paxiecrunchle]

I am in favor of C as long as we can send alerts t the nearest military garrisons leaders pre-emptivley.

[omada]

Hmm...
You said the research station construction is near rebel activity, yes? Could we say that, as a precaution to prevent the rebels from stealing anything, we're relocating that construction to a different location (that just so happens to be a good pickup spot for Magellan)?

we could also reinforce the local with small troops, and fast ones like the dogs, so they can patrol the area and make sure, but it's too risky

I am in favor of C as long as we can send alerts t the nearest military garrisons leaders pre-emptivley.

also nice

I'm basically voting for 3 options, both asuggested before, if the extra suggestions are made, and...

B: Midia cover is that we found another civilization up our globe, we are putting a nice show of our military and tech (that they don't have) that will be the basis of external trade with these alien land's that will benefit all of the republic, and that some of our superiors thought that the people needed a bit of fun to make a contrast with recent disasters, we can even spare one of our ships to follow they back with small gadgets some diplomats to make trade deals and chart these foreign lands, and a nice group of canons following it, imagine the British when they see their boats being followed by an alien ship, they will think the sailors captured a sea beast

(Make sure no one of the scalated officers had their children/sister abducted)

[blueturtle1134]

Hmm...
You said the research station construction is near rebel activity, yes? Could we say that, as a precaution to prevent the rebels from stealing anything, we're relocating that construction to a different location (that just so happens to be a good pickup spot for Magellan)?

No can do. "Near completion" means that the basic structure is already there but the scientific equipment is not. This is why we can sneak the wormhole there real easy - it looks like a fancy particle accelerator, because it is.

I am in favor of C as long as we can send alerts t the nearest military garrisons leaders pre-emptivley.

This can of course be done. However, if you have them escort the thing directly, then more people will know.

B: Midia cover is that we found another civilization up our globe, we are putting a nice show of our military and tech (that they don't have) that will be the basis of external trade with these alien land's that will benefit all of the republic, and that some of our superiors thought that the people needed a bit of fun to make a contrast with recent disasters, we can even spare one of our ships to follow they back with small gadgets some diplomats to make trade deals and chart these foreign lands, and a nice group of canons following it, imagine the British when they see their boats being followed by an alien ship, they will think the sailors captured a sea beast

(Make sure no one of the scalated officers had their children/sister abducted)

So... tell them the truth. It's already rather public knowledge that First Contact has just happened, what they don't know yet is that we're sending anything back with them. Our ships aren't that alien, there's really only one way to build a ship. The biggest difference is likely that our cruisers sit kinda low on the water and have sloped sides, like the ironclad CSS Virginia. And I'm sure Magellan's people would appreciate an escort.

So, Glass, you are tiebreak. Choose from B (Tell everyone what's going on and send a military escort dragging the WH) or C (stage a military operation on an uninhabited stretch of Eastern coastline)

[Glass]

B.