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[Enemy post]

I got the early work done on updating Jawa Fortress. Now to track down the resultant crash bugs.

[Untrustedlife]

NEW DISCOVERY! I put DOES_NOT_EXIST on dogs but when i added a summon for them i was still able to summon them. So does_not_exist DOES NOT PRECLUDE SUMMONING this should make things incredibly easy for special summons just tag the creature as does not exist then add a summon interaction for them.

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[INTERACTION:SUMMON_SHADOW_BEAST]
[I_TARGET:A:LOCATION]
[IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_LOCATION]
[I_TARGET:B:LOCATION]
[IT_LOCATION:RANDOM_NEARBY_LOCATION:A:5]
    [I_EFFECT:SUMMON_UNIT]
        [IE_TARGET:B]
        [IE_IMMEDIATE]
            [CREATURE:DOG:ALL]
            [IE_MAKE_PET_IF_POSSIBLE]

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[CREATURE:DOG]
[DESCRIPTION:A medium-sized highly social mammalian carnivore.  It has a keen sense of smell.  It can be trained to obey commands.]
[NAME:dog:dogs:canine]
[CASTE_NAME:dog:dogs:canine]
[CREATURE_TILE:'d'][COLOR:6:0:0]
[CREATURE_CLASS:MAMMAL]
[PETVALUE:30][NATURAL]
[LARGE_ROAMING]
    [DOES_NOT_EXIST]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC][TRAINABLE][PET]
[BONECARN]
[PREFSTRING:loyalty]
[BODY:QUADRUPED_NECK:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:4TOES_FQ_REG:4TOES_RQ_REG:MOUTH:TONGUE:GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_LARGE_EYE_TEETH:RIBCAGE]
[BODYGLOSS:PAW]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BODY_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS:HAIR]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:NAIL:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:NAIL:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:NAIL:FRONT]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
[PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SKIN:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:1000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:12500]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:30000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[MAXAGE:10:20]
[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:SCRATCH:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:STANCE:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:NAIL]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:scratch:scratches]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK_FLAG_BAD_MULTIATTACK]
[CHILD:1]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:puppy:puppies]
[DIURNAL]
[HOMEOTHERM:10070]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_QUADRUPED_GAITS:900:447:298:149:1900:2900] 59 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA
[SWIMS_INNATE]
[MUNDANE]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_TYPE:LOWERBODY][BP_ADD_TYPE:GELDABLE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:BODY_UPPER:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:BODY_LOWER:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:LEG_FRONT:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:LEG_REAR:HAIR]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1:BROWN:1:WHITE:1:GRAY:1:LIGHT_BROWN:1:DARK_BROWN:1:TAN:1:AUBURN:1:CHESTNUT:1:SLATE_GRAY:1:CREAM:1:CINNAMON:1:BUFF:1:BEIGE:1:CHOCOLATE:1:CHARCOAL:1:ASH_GRAY:1:RUSSET:1:IVORY:1:FLAX:1:PUMPKIN:1:GOLD:1:GOLDEN_YELLOW:1:GOLDENROD:1:COPPER:1:SAFFRON:1:AMBER:1:MAHOGANY:1:OCHRE:1:PALE_BROWN:1:RAW_UMBER:1:BURNT_SIENNA:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:DARK_TAN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:DARK_CHESTNUT:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1:TAUPE_GRAY:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:ECRU:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EAR:HAIR]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1:BROWN:1:WHITE:1:GRAY:1:LIGHT_BROWN:1:DARK_BROWN:1:TAN:1:AUBURN:1:CHESTNUT:1:SLATE_GRAY:1:CREAM:1:CINNAMON:1:BUFF:1:BEIGE:1:CHOCOLATE:1:CHARCOAL:1:ASH_GRAY:1:RUSSET:1:IVORY:1:FLAX:1:PUMPKIN:1:GOLD:1:GOLDEN_YELLOW:1:GOLDENROD:1:COPPER:1:SAFFRON:1:AMBER:1:MAHOGANY:1:OCHRE:1:PALE_BROWN:1:RAW_UMBER:1:BURNT_SIENNA:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:DARK_TAN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:DARK_CHESTNUT:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1:TAUPE_GRAY:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:ECRU:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL:HAIR]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1:BROWN:1:WHITE:1:GRAY:1:LIGHT_BROWN:1:DARK_BROWN:1:TAN:1:AUBURN:1:CHESTNUT:1:SLATE_GRAY:1:CREAM:1:CINNAMON:1:BUFF:1:BEIGE:1:CHOCOLATE:1:CHARCOAL:1:ASH_GRAY:1:RUSSET:1:IVORY:1:FLAX:1:PUMPKIN:1:GOLD:1:GOLDEN_YELLOW:1:GOLDENROD:1:COPPER:1:SAFFRON:1:AMBER:1:MAHOGANY:1:OCHRE:1:PALE_BROWN:1:RAW_UMBER:1:BURNT_SIENNA:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:DARK_TAN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:DARK_CHESTNUT:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1:TAUPE_GRAY:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:ECRU:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:tail:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:HAIR]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1:BROWN:1:WHITE:1:GRAY:1:LIGHT_BROWN:1:DARK_BROWN:1:TAN:1:AUBURN:1:CHESTNUT:1:SLATE_GRAY:1:CREAM:1:CINNAMON:1:BUFF:1:BEIGE:1:CHOCOLATE:1:CHARCOAL:1:ASH_GRAY:1:RUSSET:1:IVORY:1:FLAX:1:PUMPKIN:1:GOLD:1:GOLDEN_YELLOW:1:GOLDENROD:1:COPPER:1:SAFFRON:1:AMBER:1:MAHOGANY:1:OCHRE:1:PALE_BROWN:1:RAW_UMBER:1:BURNT_SIENNA:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:DARK_TAN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:DARK_CHESTNUT:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1:TAUPE_GRAY:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:ECRU:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:head:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:FOOT_FRONT:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RFTOE1:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RFTOE2:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RFTOE3:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RFTOE4:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LFTOE1:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LFTOE2:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LFTOE3:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LFTOE4:HAIR]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1:BROWN:1:WHITE:1:GRAY:1:LIGHT_BROWN:1:DARK_BROWN:1:TAN:1:AUBURN:1:CHESTNUT:1:SLATE_GRAY:1:CREAM:1:CINNAMON:1:BUFF:1:BEIGE:1:CHOCOLATE:1:CHARCOAL:1:ASH_GRAY:1:RUSSET:1:IVORY:1:FLAX:1:PUMPKIN:1:GOLD:1:GOLDEN_YELLOW:1:GOLDENROD:1:COPPER:1:SAFFRON:1:AMBER:1:MAHOGANY:1:OCHRE:1:PALE_BROWN:1:RAW_UMBER:1:BURNT_SIENNA:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:DARK_TAN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:DARK_CHESTNUT:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1:TAUPE_GRAY:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:ECRU:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:front paws:PLURAL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:FOOT_REAR:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RRTOE1:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RRTOE2:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RRTOE3:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:RRTOE4:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LRTOE1:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LRTOE2:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LRTOE3:HAIR]
[PLUS_TL_GROUP:BY_TOKEN:LRTOE4:HAIR]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1:BROWN:1:WHITE:1:GRAY:1:LIGHT_BROWN:1:DARK_BROWN:1:TAN:1:AUBURN:1:CHESTNUT:1:SLATE_GRAY:1:CREAM:1:CINNAMON:1:BUFF:1:BEIGE:1:CHOCOLATE:1:CHARCOAL:1:ASH_GRAY:1:RUSSET:1:IVORY:1:FLAX:1:PUMPKIN:1:GOLD:1:GOLDEN_YELLOW:1:GOLDENROD:1:COPPER:1:SAFFRON:1:AMBER:1:MAHOGANY:1:OCHRE:1:PALE_BROWN:1:RAW_UMBER:1:BURNT_SIENNA:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:DARK_TAN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:DARK_CHESTNUT:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1:TAUPE_GRAY:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:ECRU:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:rear paws:PLURAL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SKIN]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BROWN:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:CINNAMON:1:COPPER:1:DARK_BROWN:1:DARK_PEACH:1:DARK_TAN:1:ECRU:1:PALE_BROWN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:PALE_PINK:1:PEACH:1:PINK:1:RAW_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:TAN:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:skin:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:IRIS_EYE_AMBER:1:IRIS_EYE_AQUA:1:IRIS_EYE_AQUAMARINE:1:IRIS_EYE_ASH_GRAY:1:IRIS_EYE_AUBURN:1:IRIS_EYE_AZURE:1:IRIS_EYE_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_BRASS:1:IRIS_EYE_BRONZE:1:IRIS_EYE_BROWN:1:IRIS_EYE_CERULEAN:1:IRIS_EYE_CHESTNUT:1:IRIS_EYE_CHOCOLATE:1:IRIS_EYE_CINNAMON:1:IRIS_EYE_COPPER:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_BROWN:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_CHESTNUT:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_OLIVE:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_TAN:1:IRIS_EYE_ECRU:1:IRIS_EYE_EMERALD:1:IRIS_EYE_FERN_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_GRAY:1:IRIS_EYE_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_JADE:1:IRIS_EYE_LIGHT_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_LIGHT_BROWN:1:IRIS_EYE_MAHOGANY:1:IRIS_EYE_MIDNIGHT_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_OCHRE:1:IRIS_EYE_OLIVE:1:IRIS_EYE_PALE_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_PALE_BROWN:1:IRIS_EYE_PALE_CHESTNUT:1:IRIS_EYE_PERIWINKLE:1:IRIS_EYE_PINE_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_RAW_UMBER:1:IRIS_EYE_RUSSET:1:IRIS_EYE_SEA_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_SEPIA:1:IRIS_EYE_SKY_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_SLATE_GRAY:1:IRIS_EYE_SPRING_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_TAN:1:IRIS_EYE_TAUPE_DARK:1:IRIS_EYE_TAUPE_GRAY:1:IRIS_EYE_TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:IRIS_EYE_TAUPE_PALE:1:IRIS_EYE_TAUPE_SANDY:1:IRIS_EYE_TEAL:1:IRIS_EYE_TURQUOISE:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
This means I can make whatever creatures, tag them as DOES_NOT_EXIST and summon them, and that prevents them from spawning but still allows me to summon them

[Enemy post]

What happens if you summon one of the creatures that is supposed to be mythical?

[Untrustedlife]

What happens if you summon one of the creatures that is supposed to be mythical?

When i did that it crashed when i tried to summon them but didnt give an error. But i imagine if i add a body for them it will work fine. But this means you can make whatever creatures and tag them as DOES_NOT_EXIST to prevent spawning but are still able to summon them, that allows for some crazy versatility

[Enemy post]

That does sound useful.

[Levity]

Just caught up on this newest release; all rather interesting. Great work Untrustedlife!

[ZM5]

More or less got everything updated to an acceptable level, also got necromorphs done.

Thing is, I don't know whether to start releasing updates or not cause it still seems like some of the worldgen crash issues arent resolved, still cannot actually gen a world with an increased civ amount most of the time.

[Eric Blank]

Bringing stuff up to date with the new version. Then I'm gonna incorporate the new interaction features into spells.

[TomiTapio]

seems like some of the worldgen crash issues arent resolved, still cannot actually gen a world with an increased civ amount most of the time.

In OldGenesis-land, worldgen is about 90% reliable, when limit the history to 80-100 years.
You got any NATURAL_SKILL tags on civilized creatures? Could you post a worldgen params that crashes?

Here's one worldgen params

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[WORLD_GEN]
[TITLE:WARM WET MED]
[HISTORY_SEED:fg]
[NAME_SEED:cd]
[CREATURE_SEED:ab]
[DIM:129:129]
[EMBARK_POINTS:3800]
[END_YEAR:90]
[BEAST_END_YEAR:150:70]
[REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
[CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:1]
[ELEVATION:1:400:401:415]
[RAINFALL:0:99:300:550]
[TEMPERATURE:48:123:468:385]
[DRAINAGE:7:92:450:550]
[VOLCANISM:0:100:600:400]
[SAVAGERY:0:100:600:220]
[ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[RAIN_FREQUENCY:5:1:1:3:3:4]
[DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[POLE:SOUTH]
[MINERAL_SCARCITY:900]
[MEGABEAST_CAP:34]
[SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:81]
[TITAN_NUMBER:45]
[TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:39:150000:139000]
[DEMON_NUMBER:4]
[NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:0]
[BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:0]
[NIGHTMARE_NUMBER:28]
[VAMPIRE_NUMBER:11]
[WEREBEAST_NUMBER:0]
[WEREBEAST_ATTACK_TRIGGER:22:0:25000]
[SECRET_NUMBER:16]
[REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:19]
[DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:17]
[EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:7]
[EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:6]
[GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:0] [ALLOW_DIVINATION:0] [ALLOW_DEMONIC_EXPERIMENTS:1] [ALLOW_NECROMANCER_EXPERIMENTS:1] [ALLOW_NECROMANCER_LIEUTENANTS:1] [ALLOW_NECROMANCER_GHOULS:1] [ALLOW_NECROMANCER_SUMMONS:0]
[GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:31:251:503]
[EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:31:251:503]
[PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:0]
[PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:2]
[COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
[VOLCANO_MIN:4]
[REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:894:13:13]
[REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:23:1:1]
[REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:300:3:4]
[REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:60:2:2]
[REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:1:1]
[REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:300:2:2]
[REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:200:4:4]
[EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:700]
[RIVER_MINS:80:70]
[PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
[OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
[SUBREGION_MAX:2600]
[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:2]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:30]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:37]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:6]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:7]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:12]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:40]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:9]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:3]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:3]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:3]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:3]
[LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:2]
[CAVE_MIN_SIZE:4]
[CAVE_MAX_SIZE:22]
[MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:32]
[NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:64]
[ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:1]
[SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
[TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:44]
[TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:5500]
[SITE_CAP:800]
[PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
[ELEVATION_RANGES:1200:1900:500]
[RAIN_RANGES:500:500:500]
[DRAINAGE_RANGES:2080:1800:2080]
[SAVAGERY_RANGES:2080:1700:2080]
[VOLCANISM_RANGES:1200:1700:2800]


[ZM5]

Only natural_skill stuff I really use is unarmed combat skills (grasp/stance strike, wrestling, biting, also general fighter) for wild predators as well as minion creatures and civ pets that aren't found in the wild, and added discipline for the vast majority of creatures, including civilized ones - I vaguely recall the latter being fine (it didn't cause embark crashes which aren't my issue either way), don't remember the former though (although, I'd guess thats mostly fine too since I was able to gen a small world and default amount of civs to 125 years with high everything else - though afterwards with the same parameters it crashed at 40 years).

Now that I think about it, is MILITARY_TACTICS in the list of skills that cause worldgen/embark crashes? I recall giving it to some "leader" castes of beast civs, i.e to Xenomorph queens.

I'll try to get some worldgen params later, can't do so atm, but will post.

[Eric Blank]

Which natural skills are known to cause crashes? And does it affect skill gain and rust changes too? I've never heard of this issue before.

[TomiTapio]

Which natural skills are known to cause crashes? And does it affect skill gain and rust changes too? I've never heard of this issue before.

No idea if affects skill gains/rusts.

OldGenesis 44.12g raws always crashed 47.01 when pressing "embark" on world map.
Removing all natural_skill tags from fort mode civ, removed the crash. Here's my bug-hunting log

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- try: all entity away but default dwarf. Still crash on embark.
only sylvans: embark crash. Might be materials.
toy and trapcomp away: yes crash embark.
ALTAR_WAR and ALTAR_NATURE names should not clash.
metal and other away: year 29 WGEN crash.
many creature files away: embark crash.
embark profiles away: still embark crash.
remove lots of enables from "smal betatest" wgen: still embark crash.

- try: vanilla dwarf entity and creature:  embark success!!
  restore dwarf entity: no crash! It is the castes. Copy some castes over and roll new worlds...
  skill rates: try: works.
  moods, sounds, stone clan: try: works.
  aspid and dwarf_sweat: CRASH WORLDGEN. missed a copypaste?
  vani sweat: try: no crash.
  restore ALL of dwarf crea but sweat: try:
 
- try real embark "isla wetca nowere". embark crash! World too complex?!?
  try real embark "csmallreg nice". crash on saving world!
  try vani create now: embark crash.
  delete aspid specialty toxin: try: embark crash.
  delete aspid and moss castes: try createnew-y : civ is dying, embarkcrash.
  delete jade and shroom: try smal betatest world: civ is dying, embarkcrash.
  delete steel and obsi: try smal betatest world: embarkcrash. Try csmallregnice: embarkcrash.
  delete gloom, shield: try smallreg nocaves: crash wgen. Try csmallregnice: embarkcrash.
 
- restore known-working dwarf crea: try createnew-y: works! Yay! Publish working saved world.


   - test dwarf crea: add back "no scratch, no bite". profnames, gaits, eyelash is now on eyelid not head, 80-100y maxage. roll world smaller region: no embark crash.
     add domple and posh and 70kg size and select all castes line: roll csmallregnice: no embark crash.
     add gloomer and shield clan: WGEN CRASH. try again, embark crash.
     simplify shield male and female: roll csmallregnice: embark crash.
     simplify gloomer male and female: roll csmallregnice: no crash on embark.
     copy everything from 4412 and simplify gloomers: roll csmallregnice: embark crash.
       and simplify shield clan: em crash.
     restore prev branch, add moss clan: wgen crash. wgen crash year 90. wgen crash. try smal beta world: no em crash.
      add steel clan:    embark crash!
      steel, remove no_poison and swims innate: wgen crash. try again, embark crash.
      remove steel clan skill stuff: still embark crash.
   someone said naturalskill-smithing causes the embark crash.
   remove all 99 NATURALSKILL with Replace, try: NO EM CRASH.
   
   copy everything from 4412 and remove all 265 NATURAL_SKILL with Replace, try: wgen crash. try again: NO EMBARK CRASH. it is the naturalskill tag.

Demonic Gophers did testing: (quoted from 47.01 release thread)

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"My latest test was to give each of the 15 castes a different set of three natural skills - including at least one military and at least one civilian skill for each.  This got the crash on embark.  Maybe it's caused by trying to account for natural skills when putting together the founding party?

(This embark crash seems to be a new bug in 47.01.  It's certainly not limited to OldGenesis, and applies to entity modding in general.  I'm discussing my testing here because the subject had already come up, so I wanted to refine the cause if I could.)

EDIT: Switched back to my original two-caste testing creature.  I gave them NATURAL_SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON:2 and FORGE_ARMOR - got a crash upon hitting embark.  Took it back out and was able to embark without problems.  As best I can tell, this is what's triggering the crash.

EDIT 2: Added natural smithing skill to vanilla dwarves, with no other changes to creature or entity.  Crash on embark.

[Demonic Gophers]

Skill learn rates seem to be fine.  Just checked an embark with boosted learn rate for smithing and an assortment of other skills with no problem.

[Eric Blank]

Hmm, I'm not getting to embark trying to update my spellcrafts mod. It seems to consistently crash during worldgen within 150 years, only an "impoverished word selector" showing up in the errorlog.

What other causes of worldgen crashes have been noted?

[Shonai_Dweller]

Hmm, I'm not getting to embark trying to update my spellcrafts mod. It seems to consistently crash during worldgen within 150 years, only an "impoverished word selector" showing up in the errorlog.

What other causes of worldgen crashes have been noted?

Worldgen crash causes are found by Toady, when you post a crashing worldgen seed in a thread he reads (47.02 announcement) or the bug tracker. (Or if he happens across one himself - but that's not as often as we'll find them).
If you don't tell him, it won't get done.