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[peasant cretin]

The P&F Mod has always been a junk assemblage that resembles a 5-year old's first pasta studded collage, where everything is tacked on. It also has unintentionally comical results from misunderstanding inorganics, like your adventurer finding pools of green tea near sewer openings in the day, wondering why they were there, and then later, on the way back from the catacombs, finding that those pools had frozen into green tea floor grates, now covering those very openings at night. In the same world, there was that sausage statue of humans at a temple.

So, over the past weekend, having had the idea to put in chocolate, I was led to the sweet pod raws (milled sugar and extracts), and there I actually learned something, instead of stumbling about in my usual modding haze: I could shift as much of the food/drink reactions from inorganic to plant, to avoid a world where some of the inorganics chosen for town building aren't meat stew.

So yup, plenty of clean up.

[Eric Blank]

Currently testing a new rebalance for ranged weapons. By design, bows now will loose velocity from heavier (e.g. silver) projectiles, but have a constant momentum, while crossbows will have a constant velocity, but gain momentum from heavier projectiles.

Although I've run all the calculations using the ranged momentum formula from the wiki, it would be really handy to have some way of measuring the precise momentum in the game - you never know which values DF may be rounding up and in what direction. Also, I'm not sure if the projectile's velocity has any actual effect on combat, when the momentum is constant.

I would bet someone made a dfhack plugin that can measure velocity of objects, just to measure velocity and momentum of minecarts. try the dfhack thread maybe?
Presumably velocity measures only travel time, so long as the objects mass makes up for the difference in momentum, so if a projectile moves too slowly, maybe it will miss just because the target is no longer there? idk if things can be that slow, though.


I'm fighting with making a fish vermin with dozens of castes that each must be made of a single material with a syndrome attached to it, for spellcrafts purposes. So each one needs to have its own material and tissue defined, needs to have a unique ID etc. Its a pain in the arse tbh but fish items inherit their caste's name with no further modifiers which makes it easy to ensure the name is correct. Meat items want to be called "[species] [material] chops" and thats just annoying to work with.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Yeah MEAT is annoying like that with the whole "creature_name material_name" + optional "meat_name"

You can make your life easier by making a CV that adds a new meat material with a _suffix plus a tissue that also comes with a _suffix followed by a [TISSUE_MATERIAL:meat-id_suffix] then layer the meat tissue.

Then layer on you can just use SELECT_MATERIAL:MUSCLE_SUFFIX and add your syndromes to it.

example (which you can probably use as is)

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Arg1 is the suffix
[CREATURE_VARIATION:ADD_SUFFIXED_MEAT_TISSUE_LAYER]
--create suffixed material and tissue, and assign tissue material
[CV_NEW_TAG:USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MUSCLE_!ARG1:MUSCLE_TEMPLATE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:MUSCLE_!ARG1:MUSCLE_TEMPLATE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:MUSCLE_!ARG1]
--Layer suffixed muscle
[CV_NEW_TAG:TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:MUSCLE_!ARG1]
you'd use it in the caste like:

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[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:ADD_SUFFIXED_MEAT_TISSUE_LAYER:TOXIC]
which would make the meat material MUSCLE_TOXIC, make the tissue MUSCLE_TOXIC which then instantly uses the new material. And then layers everything with MUSCLE_TOXIC

then at the end you can just use [SELECT_MATERIAL:MUSCLE_TOXIC] --Add syndromes here

[Eric Blank]

Ill give that a try, if nothing else it would reduce the size of the file overall.

It definitely works, thanks. The game doesnt seem to have a problem with that many castes or anything which is nice.

[peasant cretin]

While I was never able to get animal milk booze to populate tavern barrels (seems all Adv Mode alcohols are pulled from plant raws), I did get taverns to sometimes provide generic coffee, generic tea and hot chocolate.

Originally I had varying types of coffee/tea as plant extracts for adventurer crafting reactions, but taverns don't use extracts, so everything is once again a drink.

Also a very odd thing happened in a test world where a marksdwarf was world-genned with an equipment item from ENTITY:SUBTERRANEAN_ANIMAL_PEOPLES, despite being from ENTITY:MOUNTAIN. Definitely odd.

[Enemy post]

For some reason, I spent a while tallying up creature diversity in every biome. If somebody wants to read over the results, here they are.

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Desert:26 normal creatures, 104 Savage, 1 evil. 30 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tagia:20 normal creatures, 80 savage, 2 good, 2 evil. 25 normal vermin, 2 savage, 3 good, 3 evil.

Temperate Broadleaf:33 normal creatures, 131 savage, 2 good, 1 evil. 38 normal vermin, 2 savage, 3 good, 3 evil.

Temperate Coniferous:33 normal creatures, 125 savage, 1 good, 0 evil. 35 normal vermin, 2 savage, 3 good, 3 evil.

Tropical Moist broadleaf:44 normal creatures, 115 savage, 1 good, 1 evil. 33 normal vermin, 2 savage, 3 good, 3 evil.

Tropical dry broadleaf:28 normal creatures, 105 savage, 2 good, 1 evil. 31 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 3 evil.

Tropical Coniferous:26 normal creatures, 105 savage, 2 good, 1 evil. 32 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 3 evil.

Glacier:1 normal creature, 3 savage, 2 evil. 0 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good.

Temperate Grassland:27 normal creatures, 110 savage, 2 evil. 34 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 evil and 3 good.

Tropical Grassland:29 normal creatures,  100 savage, 2 evil. 29 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 evil and 3 good.

Temperate Freshwater Lake:15 normal creatures, 20 savage. 10 normal vermin, 2 good.

Temperate Brackish Lake:14 normal creatures, 18 savage. 3 normal vermin, 2 good.

Temperate Saltwater Lake:10 normal creatures, 16 savage. 3 normal vermin, 2 good.

Tropical Freshwater Lake:9 normal creatures, 12 savage. 7 normal vermin, 2 good.

Tropical Brackish Lake:7 normal creatures, 12 savage. 5 normal vermin, 2 good.

Tropical Saltwater Lake:7 normal creatures, 12 savage. 5 normal vermin, 2 good.

Mountain:12 normal creatures, 25 savage, 1 good, 1 evil. 1 savage vermin, 3 good.

Temperate Freshwater Pool:8 normal vermin, 2 savage, 1 evil.

Temperate Brackish Pool:7 normal vermin, 2 savage, 1 evil.

Temperate Saltwater Pool:7 normal vermin, 2 savage, 1 evil.

Tropical Freshwater Pool:8 normal vermin, 2 savage, 1 evil.

Tropical Brackish Pool:8 normal vermin, 2 savage, 1 evil.

Tropical Saltwater Pool:8 normal vermin, 2 savage, 1 evil.

Arctic Ocean:25 normal creatures, 37 savage, 1 good, 1 evil. 12 normal vermin, 2 good.

Temperate Ocean:32 normal creatures, 25 savage, 1 good, 1 evil. 22 normal vermin, 2 good.

Tropical Ocean:35 normal creatures, 23 savage, 1 good, 1 evil. 11 normal vermin, 2 good.

Temperate Freshwater River:14 normal creatures, 16 savage. 9 normal vermin.

Temperate Brackish River:13 normal creatures, 16 savage. 6 normal vermin.

Temperate Saltwater River:8 normal creatures, 12 savage. 6 normal vermin.

Tropical Freshwater River:10 normal creatures, 12 savage. 4 normal vermin.

Tropical Brackish River:8 normal creatures, 11 savage. 3 normal vermin.

Tropical Saltwater River:8 normal creatures, 11 savage. 3 normal vermin.

Temperate Savanna:23 normal creatures, 102 savage, 2 evil. 34 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tropical Savanna:29 normal creatures, 111 savage, 2 evil. 30 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Temperate Shrubland:29 normal creatures, 109 savage, 1 good, 2 evil. 33 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tropical Shrubland:30 normal creatures, 105 savage, 1 good, 2 evil. 30 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tundra:14 normal creatures, 27 savage, 2 evil. 1 savage vermin, 3 good.

Temperate Freshwater Marsh:16 normal creatures, 67 savage, 3 evil. 30 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Temperate Saltwater Marsh:15 normal creatures,  63 savage, 3 evil.  29 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Temperate Freshwater Swamp:14 normal creatures, 67 savage, 1 evil. 29 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Temperate Saltwater Swamp:13 normal creatures, 63 savage, 1 evil. 28 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tropical Freshwater Marsh:17 normal creatures, 67 savage, 3 evil. 27 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tropical Saltwater Marsh:16 normal creatures, 65 savage, 3 evil. 27 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tropical Freshwater Swamp:18 normal creatures, 67 savage, 1 evil. 27 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Tropical Saltwater Swamp:17 normal creatures, 65 savage, 1 evil. 27 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Mangrove Swamp:20 normal creatures, 71 savage, 1 evil. 28 normal vermin, 1 savage, 3 good, 2 evil.

Cavern Level 1:31 creatures, 7 vermin.

Cavern Level 2:41 creatures, 9 vermin.

Cavern Level 3:35 creatures, 3 vermin.

Cavern Level 4:4 creatures, 1 vermin.

Underworld:Demons.

I hadn't realized just how many more types of creatures there are in most Savage biomes before.

[Caz]

is there a way to allow a creature to mine without having a pickaxe equipped?

[TomiTapio]

is there a way to allow a creature to mine without having a pickaxe equipped?

Invader creatures and cave creatures can not dig. It's a citizen labor, invading army cannot dig. Yet.
It's a design decision that only pick-using citizens can dig.


In my modding, I'm racking up TODO entries...

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err: ironhand jug looks like anvil.
TODO malachite ore into green dye powder. goethite ore into brown ochre dye.
TODO read http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Building_token
TODO all big cats and wolf, viewrange up.
TODO is raw chitin a shell, for shell crafts? appears so.
TODO ash from cheap wood
TODO giant bugbat 75kg
  maybe reinforced_leather_armor from wood logs and "bark strips". Like a wooden backpack. Try biting through 6mm pine, wolf.
TODO bag tea bush leaves.
TODO why there are jade (gem) mugs??
TODO make glue (pine sap) for export trade only.
TODO perhaps use tar and glue in furniture shop.
TODO large ents in savage forests.
TODO two new creatures that give pearls. maybe an ivory tusk pig.
TODO iron & bronze memorial slab, if want variety over rock slab.
DONE test wood backpack and quiver!
TODO add red panda. sound: huff-quack.
TODO turbo-ent for savage places.
TODO forge needles. [REAGENT:D:1:TOY:ITEM_TOY_NEEDLE:NONE:NONE]


TODO blueberries are filed under leaves, is that an error?
TODO ironhand: crude spear tile?, wooden quiver tile?

TODO try immolate tag rat caste. dry biomes only.
TODO Mush foe that has breath attack of PEACE CHILL MELLOW. perm makes less aggressive less anxiety.
TODO soybeans into soy milk
TODO like blueshroom but only in freezing areas.
TODO opossum tile gfx choose
TODO basket-weaving, woven armor nah

TODO create mystery IMMOBILE fungal growth creature, maybe gas on attack.
done?  boost sinews 15%
TODO once "FRONT" is possible on body parts, breasts to FRONT.
TODO rare bird genders of "black X" that drop grassfire-starting itemcorpse. To simulate lightning-strike forestfire.  NOT goose, yes groundhog, yes hoarymarmot, x?
TODO --retune trade capacity of all, max 30% of crea weight
TODO graphics: horse_small make duplicate to horse, change to spotty.
TODO inspect SETTLEMENT_BIOME tags
TODO kiwi icon choice, similar to chicken

For some reason, I spent a while tallying up creature diversity in every biome. If somebody wants to read over the results, here they are.
I hadn't realized just how many more types of creatures there are in most Savage biomes before.

GIANT variants account for most of the savage creatures, I suppose. Giant versions of tiny insects too.

[Caz]

is there a way to allow a creature to mine without having a pickaxe equipped?

Invader creatures and cave creatures can not dig. It's a citizen labor, invading army cannot dig. Yet.
It's a design decision that only pick-using citizens can dig.

Wasn't there a way to do digging invaders through dfhack or did I imagine that?

Really puts a damper on antman fort if they have to use pickaxes shame

[thefriendlyhacker]

is there a way to allow a creature to mine without having a pickaxe equipped?

Invader creatures and cave creatures can not dig. It's a citizen labor, invading army cannot dig. Yet.
It's a design decision that only pick-using citizens can dig.

Wasn't there a way to do digging invaders through dfhack or did I imagine that?

Really puts a damper on antman fort if they have to use pickaxes shame

*ahem*.  No idea if it still works, but I was considering using it myself at some stage, so tell me how it goes.

[Abyzou]

So because I'm a huge anime nerd (and after being inspired by Putnam's fantastic DBZ Mod) I've set about creating several mods based on various anime. Most of these are just beings/creatures added to the raws, but I'm also planning at least one total conversion mod.

The first thing I made was an Elfen Lied mod that gives dwarves/humans an extremely rare Diclonius caste with extra body parts (vectors - made of slade!) that can tear enemies apart. And a random chance to give themselves a syndrome making them CRAZED 

After testing in the arena, I find that they can wipe the floor with groups of up to four unarmed humans without injury (though groups larger than 6 do result in the Diclonius getting injured - and a large enough group will eventually kill them). I'm trying to think of how to make them more lethal while still keeping them faithful to the source material (e.g. no super strength or cotton candy skin or anything like that).

Edit: Ok so after tripling the number of vectors, and adding [ATTACK_VELOCITY_MODIFIER:10000], [ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:10000] and [ATTACK_FLAG_INDEPENDENT_MULTIATTACK] to the vector attack, my Diclonius has become far more deadly in combat, able to reduce crowds to minced meat in moments. Unfortunately she's still vulnerable in melee - in one arena test run a human killed her with a lucky punch to the upper body. The main issue is she has to be right next to her target to use her vectors (whereas in the anime/manga the vectors were long enough to kill from a certain distance). Oh well...

[Enemy post]

Just found out the MEANDERER tag ruins war animals. That's unfortunate, I'll have to patch my mods to account for that.

[TomiTapio]

The main issue is she has to be right next to her target to use her vectors (whereas in the anime/manga the vectors were long enough to kill from a certain distance). Oh well...

A breath attack that does a little stun, and the breath attack can be used every other turn?

[Abyzou]

The main issue is she has to be right next to her target to use her vectors (whereas in the anime/manga the vectors were long enough to kill from a certain distance). Oh well...

A breath attack that does a little stun, and the breath attack can be used every other turn?

Well... I'm trying to remain as faithful to the anime/manga as possible, and a ranged breath attack wouldn't accurately replicate the effect (the vectors are supposed to be like physical limbs, not projectiles/beams/etc. They have to physically grab and rip things apart). Also a breath attack would leave residue everywhere.

My overall intention was to have the Diclonius be pretty much unbeatable in melee (except against another Diclonius), but could be taken out by ranged weapons (e.g. crossbow bolt to the brain ).

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

can make the "breath" attack just a direct interaction that just stuns for a sec to allow them to get in range