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Author Topic: Starship EVO -- Formerly Skywanderers -- Releasing May 21st  (Read 13772 times)

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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2017, 01:42:09 pm »

Well, just 3 days left for the kickstarter.

Some new cool stuff... custom personal small arms construction for example.

But really I'm in on this for all the smoothly operating moving parts and the mechs. I mean what other system is gonna let me elevator a functioning mech right up to the deck of the ship (or fighter).
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2017, 02:02:36 pm »

Man, fuck this actually looks potentially kinda cool. Then again so did starmade until it became clear it was staying fucking nothing for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2017, 05:25:43 pm »

I just made a 25€ pledge. Let's see what we'll get in a month ;)
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2017, 04:55:48 am »

Looks very promising (but how many times have people said that about projects that never end up going anywhere), but currently it doesn't seem like they plan on releasing it on anything other than Windows, which to me is a total dealbreaker.
(though I have been told they might try to get it working for Linux around the time of release, so there's some sliver of hope, I guess...)
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« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2017, 04:57:48 am »

The creator uploaded this awesome video about a millennium falcon somebody built in Skywanderers a few hours ago to celebrate the nearing end of the Kickstarter campaign.
I love how detailed you can make things. Can't wait to mess around with my own ship^^
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« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2017, 05:21:22 am »

Huh, was that a Halo that ship was on in the video?
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2017, 08:29:35 am »

PROBABLY just a bog-standard ringworld. It's too small to be a full-scale Halo (But I could accept a smaller one in-game due to general processor-power limitations) and has too much water.

That game looks really cool---I hope it does something similar to StarMade, where it's FTP until it gets out of Alpha. Mostly because I want to try that.
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2017, 08:40:29 am »

A "bog-standard" ringworld is a structure with a circumference equal to approximately Earth's orbital path around the sun and was devised as a half measure alternative to a Dyson Sphere.  So being vastly smaller than that it is a halo structure, but in all likelihood not a Halo device.

I've looked over the trailers a couple of times, but I'm still not really getting a sense of what the devs are going for here, I'm cautiously optimistic based on what I've seen so far, but Space Engineers, Starmade and a few other projects of a similar ilk have left me very wary.
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2017, 09:11:43 am »

Uh, Null, that's really not a ring-WORLD. Something like that would more likely be referred to as a "Dyson ring" or possibly "A thoroughly implausible construction" (Any spin to provide gravity, AT ALL, is going to rip the thing apart. Oh, and if it gets bumped by anything it's going to fall into the Sun).

So no, the definition you provided very much not a "standard" ringworld. Ringworld would refer to a planet-sized (ish) object (Even if the Halo rings aren't) or facsimile thereof.
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2017, 09:17:39 am »

No, the ringworld construct was devised by Larry Niven in nineteen seventy.  The term "ringworld" therefor refers to a system-scale structure that orbits a star and is used for habitable area, anything smaller may have similar properties but is not a ringworld.  This isn't open for debate, as the term is already in use.  In fact the Halo and similar small-scale ring habitats are closest to "Culture Orbitals" as described by Banks.
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2017, 09:34:42 am »

What about glorias though
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2017, 10:41:08 am »

To be fair, a ringworld isn't a "half-measure alternative to a Dyson Sphere," either.  A Dyson sphere as originally envisioned (what would today be called a swarm) was simply any collection of orbiting structures that captured the total energy output of a star.  Living on a Dyson sphere would be rather tricky; while the Dyson swarm or a statite-based construction would be able to support any number of habitats indirectly, the most common shell that would be directly analogous to a solid ringworld has all sorts of problems with gravitational interactions or lack therein.  A ringworld is specifically built to provide a metric butt-ton (technical term, there) of habitable space, with energy capture being entirely ancillary. 

Also, I have to ask, but what are/is glorias?  I'm not familiar with the term, and a search for a single Latin word came up with nothing of relevance to BDOs. 
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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2017, 10:50:16 am »

Fair enough, I am more familiar with the later versions of the Dyson sphere than with it's original concept.  Niven did describe the ringworld as a "compromise" design, though I'm not sure in what context exactly.

I have no idea what scriver is talking about either, a couple cursory searches revealed nothing of meaning.
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2017, 12:33:21 pm »

In Swedish gloria is the word for halo, I assumed it was a synonym for it in English as well but it doesn't appear to be.
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Re: Skywanderers: The Game That Was Prophecized
« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2017, 01:16:50 pm »

Ah, that would make sense, given the origin of "haloes".

Halo was derived from the concept of the ringworld (or Niven Ring), and probably other sources (such as the above mentioned culture orbitals proposed by Banks).  It is an even greater compromise, an attempt at a structure that doesn't necessarily require materials that defy modern science with their properties in order for it to exist.  That of course falls apart once the Ark is revealed tho' (and the Ark is still orders of magnitude smaller than Ringworld).
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