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[NUKE9.13]

Now, much like what has/will happen(ed) to the marines in the Unfinished, we are become the monsters.

[Nirur Torir]

You are mistaken.

The monstrous action is to create prison ships with well armored brigs, drop Kasgyr POWs in, plus some of our own prisoners to fill out the numbers, leave them docked with The Unfinished for a turn, then deploy them near Kasgyr residential districts and their capital spire's base.

[Jilladilla]

....Just thought of a question for Draignean (Sorry Draignean!):
Do we have to design medium sized crystals, or are they already a thing we have but just not relevant at the moment?

[Draignean]

....Just thought of a question for Draignean (Sorry Draignean!):
Do we have to design medium sized crystals, or are they already a thing we have but just not relevant at the moment?

You have to design them. Currently medium sized crystals either shatter under their own weight due to growth irregularities, or when you slow down the growth to keep them from developing flaws they simply take too damn long to grow to be practical.

[Jilladilla]

You have to design them. Currently medium sized crystals either shatter under their own weight due to growth irregularities, or when you slow down the growth to keep them from developing flaws they simply take too damn long to grow to be practical.

...Huh... Well, anyone here with knowledge of artificial crystal growth have any thoughts on how to deal with this? In a way that hopefully doesn't interfere with the Itshana Process?.... (Obviously we can avoid the issue for now, especially as Herbie proved that we can use downsized Itshana Select crystals to at least mostly imitate a larger crystal; but it is an issue that will need to be addressed eventually...)

(PS, Sorry for asking so many questions Draignean! You're awesome for answering most of them though.)

[Tack]

Well, most I know is, they stick 'em in a vat, a couple of generations later, bam, core crystal.
The matrix can be changed during growth by the vatters, and that's the main component which codes the crystal as to what it does, and it can also be tweaked later by engineers, but only superficially.

I'll need to re-read the Itshana process, but basically we seem to be after a way to increase the speed of crystal growth, and then something buzzwords matrix.

Also I'm not voting for kill

Plan A: (1) Tack
Plan C: (5) NUKE9.13, Madman, Milo, Nirur, Jilladilla

I'd rather rely on our Scouts seeing as a retreat is going to be messy anyway.
But I'd like permission to change skiff allocation on A to 1|1 or both to unfinished.

[Jilladilla]

Well, most I know is, they stick 'em in a vat, a couple of generations later, bam, core crystal.

Generations?!....Welp... Either we have some super growth accelerating thingy, some form of precognition, or our Order Forms can transcend time itself, at least to an extent.

[Draignean]

Well, most I know is, they stick 'em in a vat, a couple of generations later, bam, core crystal.

Generations?!....Welp... Either we have some super growth accelerating thingy, some form of precognition, or our Order Forms can transcend time itself, at least to an extent.

Super growth acceleration thingy.

Basically this is GM fiat in order to make engineering changes take place on an acceptable timescale. I mean, in the books, the core of Captain Grimm's ship was literally millennia old.

Airships are, in some ways, a bit easier to make in this setting. I mean, not studio Ghibli easy, but you don't need a hunk of rock aged in a vat for five-hundred years, and then 'broken in' for another century. 

[Madman198237]

Aw. It should be the order forms transcending time and whatnot.

Because that is a suitably awesome bureaucracy right there.

[Tack]

Oh my god. Density of paperwork. Prattchett meets Butcher.
We just need a large enough filing cabinet... maybe a habble.

[Draignean]

Alright, going to grab lunch. I'll lock votes in and start work on the turn.

[NUKE9.13]

So, I too caved in, and got the book.
And the prologue alone has, uh, overthrown my previous assumptions. Specifically regarding gauntlets. I thought they were like pistols, extremely basic weapons that deal minimal damage- inflicting moderate burns, sort of thing. But apparently they are capable of blowing doors off of hinges. I feel a lot more confident in their ability to take down giant spiders, at least after our revisions are complete.
Also, it seems like webbing works differently in the book? They talk about it being used as sails which consume power, rather than generating it? Not that I'm complaining, I think the way webbing works here is fine.
Also also, apparently they grow meat in vats. I wonder if they even realise that meat is nominally dead animals? Like, presumably they haven't seen a real farm animal in millenia.

[milo christiansen]

From what I gathered it seems webbing needs to be energized by a core crystal, but it then produces some other kind of energy? needed for cannons, lift crystals, and trim crystals... Except when it isn't? The books are definitely story over consistency...

[Draignean]

So, I too caved in, and got the book.
And the prologue alone has, uh, overthrown my previous assumptions. Specifically regarding gauntlets. I thought they were like pistols, extremely basic weapons that deal minimal damage- inflicting moderate burns, sort of thing. But apparently they are capable of blowing doors off of hinges. I feel a lot more confident in their ability to take down giant spiders, at least after our revisions are complete.
Also, it seems like webbing works differently in the book? They talk about it being used as sails which consume power, rather than generating it? Not that I'm complaining, I think the way webbing works here is fine.
Also also, apparently they grow meat in vats. I wonder if they even realise that meat is nominally dead animals? Like, presumably they haven't seen a real farm animal in millenia.

I changed web (and the propulsion) a bit for a couple reasons. Primarily because, tbh, the Core crystals generate power basically from nothing otherwise.

In the book, Core Crystal provides power via aetheric conduits in the Core Crystal acting as over-unity generators. It's not important to the story, so you're not meant to inspect it that closely. So I re-rigged a few things in order to avoid giving players a theoretically infinite source of electricity. I've seen enough arms race to know where that goes.

[Tack]

Not sure they'd have seen wood either. That's grown too.

Also, oh. I thought it was actually gathering and converting aether... Except into electricity, I guess, instead of into motion.