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[Madman198237]

"Common sense".

Yep, sure. Anyways, I'll play it safe with our dice, if you don't mind.

Besides, a bonus can be a powerful thing---if we even get a plus 1, it ensures we can't truly FAIL. And if we discover that "Hahaha lolnope you must invest more designs" then I guess we've just avoided dropping additional dice into a revision sinkhole.

[milo christiansen]

As if we were going to do them as revision anyway. Honestly. No, common sense says we do a "and now for the other crystals" *design*. Why waste time with multiple revisions (that may or may not work) when we can do one relatively easy project?

Besides, when have we ever gotten a +1 to anything? Younare seriously overestimating how easy it is to get a bonus.

[Madman198237]

I mean, prep work seems like a good start in this system.

Besides, we should get a solidly useable answer regardless. The kind of answer that tells you "How many dice should we invest at design-start to keep times and costs down" and such.

[Tack]

Cautious Advance:
 - 1 die: (0)
 - 2 dice: (0)

Assault PLACEs:
 - 1 die: (0)
 - 2 dice: (2) Milo, Jilladilla

PIN DOWN
 - 2 die : (2) 10ebbor10, Tack

PEARSHAPED
1 die: (1) Madman

Windrider Refit
1 die: (1) Tack

Save a die: (2) 10ebbor10, Madman

Windrider Refit "Alternate name pending"

Replace the dual Small Cores with one Medium Core, and simplify the wiring.
What's the worst that could happen?

Alternatively we could stick entirely to melee and rush over the grenades.
That could be cute?

[Jilladilla]

Alright, enough with the tied vote!... Let's get this show on the road.

Cautious Advance:
 - 1 die: (0)
 - 2 dice: (0)

Assault PLACEs:
 - 1 die: (0)
 - 2 dice: (1) Milo

PIN DOWN
 - 1 die : (3) 10ebbor10, Tack, Jilladilla

PEARSHAPED
1 die: (1) Madman

Windrider Refit
1 die: (1) Tack

Save a die: (3) 10ebbor10, Madman, Jilladilla

[Madman198237]

Pin Down won't work---our "lighter" units can't keep their armored grenadiers "pinned" effectively, which means the PLACEs are going to get exposed and killed when the enemy rushes us.

[Tack]

Well what was our alternative?

[Madman198237]

Don't bother with a new tactic, let's find out if we CAN use a revision for applying Ikukasa to other crystal types, and save one die to have more flexibility next turn.

For now, we use CCC and some Anti-Flanking. We still get usefulness out of CCC---it's basically just "USE COVER!" and because of BLOCK we've got lots of cover to use. We don't NEED another tactic, not right now. Let's see how battle goes with overwhelming numbers of MOVE PLACEs.

[milo christiansen]

I agree that pin down totally sucks. Sadly all the other one vote option suck more, so I really won't vote for them.

Cautious Advance:
 - 1 die: (0)
 - 2 dice: (0)

Assault PLACEs:
 - 1 die: (0)
 - 2 dice: (0)

PIN DOWN
 - 1 die : (3) 10ebbor10, Tack, Jilladilla

PEARSHAPED
1 die: (1) Madman

Windrider Refit
1 die: (1) Tack

Save a die: (3) 10ebbor10, Madman, Jilladilla
Save two dice: (1) Milo

[Tack]

We could always try and improve our mineral research thingo?
I'd also like to argue in favour of turning the "super-redudant" Windrider into the heavy cruiser it was possibly always meant to be.

[milo christiansen]

I would like to argue for doing the crystal refit together with a rewiring as a design. Less chance of it not working.

[Madman198237]

Alright, so let's try not to waste dice---testing the waters with this revisions gives us the BEST CHANCE at not wasting any dice with moving our newest core crystal improvements to all other crystal types.

Rewiring the Windrider in a revision is SUICIDE. It won't work, we're already screwed by the dice in that field anyway.

[10ebbor10]

Pin Down won't work---our "lighter" units can't keep their armored grenadiers "pinned" effectively, which means the PLACEs are going to get exposed and killed when the enemy rushes us.

Except they totally can. The enemy armor is not complete. Exposed legs and arms can be hit, at which point the poison incapacitates them.

[Madman198237]

How come it doesn't work when they're charging down hallways in full view of everybody?

[10ebbor10]

Because we didn't implement the tactic yet.

Future designs aren't retroactive into the past.