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Author Topic: Arms Race: War of the Cinder Spires | Spire Wreth  (Read 161752 times)

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Re: Arms Race: War of the Cinder Spires | Spire Wreth
« Reply #1455 on: August 17, 2017, 05:05:05 am »

You made a sidehand reference in a full blown and exagerated link.

You absolutely made a tiny thing into a massive outburst.
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« Reply #1456 on: August 17, 2017, 06:22:05 am »

And thus we disagree.
Moving on.
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« Reply #1457 on: August 17, 2017, 07:17:51 am »

Well, in the interest of moving things along, here is my suggestion for a design this turn:

SUCKERPUNCH Factory
It is obvious that the SUCKERPUNCH is a wonderful weapon, and will likely remain our first pick for a secondary armament even after we attain a newer and stronger naval weapon. Unfortunately, the Windrider has revealed a terrible flaw in this otherwise splendid weapon: Building massive amounts of these cannons is prohibitively expensive. As a result, we have approached private contractors with a proposition to open up a facility that would produce and provide these weapons for our use.


I made an alternative write up if we decide to use our guaranteed 6 on this:
SUCKERPUNCH Factory; WRETHIAN PRIDE EDITION! (AKA, auto-6 on Effectiveness...)
It is obvious that the SUCKERPUNCH is a wonderful weapon, and will likely remain our first pick for a secondary armament even after we attain a newer and stronger naval weapon. Unfortunately, the Windrider has revealed a terrible flaw in this otherwise splendid weapon: Building massive amounts of these cannons is prohibitively expensive. Fortunately, Wrethian Pride has prevailed, and an utterly massive amount of engineers and workers from all across the Spire have volunteered to spend some of their free time working in a facility made to produce these weapons once it has been established, and we estimate that its production rate will be quite impressive as a result.

As always, criticize, offer edits, think of a better name, hopefully one that incorporates the SUCKERPUNCH acronym, or use this idea as the basis for your own write-up.
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Re: Arms Race: War of the Cinder Spires | Spire Wreth
« Reply #1458 on: August 17, 2017, 07:19:26 am »

Private
CONTRACTORS

WHAT HERESY IS THIS
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« Reply #1459 on: August 17, 2017, 07:49:10 am »

Private
CONTRACTORS

WHAT HERESY IS THIS

My head had a brief hiccup on how exactly production lines work without using up resources ok? I guess another way to think of it is foreign interests who get supplied with start-up materials and the design in exchange for some of the output. I can edit that part if need be.
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« Reply #1460 on: August 17, 2017, 08:21:48 am »

Or we could force our soon-to-be CRYSTAL RESEARCH DESIGN's efficacy to a 6. Understanding crystals would be *excellent*.
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« Reply #1461 on: August 17, 2017, 08:27:27 am »

Or we could force our soon-to-be CRYSTAL RESEARCH DESIGN's efficacy to a 6. Understanding crystals would be *excellent*.
I'm inclined to agree with this. We should use our forced-6 on a design that will enable other designs. Trickle-down efficacy.
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« Reply #1462 on: August 17, 2017, 09:22:17 am »

I don't mind using it for the U-Wot as long as the additional engineer, researcher and fireteam wings end up getting implemented. Will have just as much trickle.
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« Reply #1463 on: August 17, 2017, 10:53:26 am »

Right, this idea gained some traction in the Discord so I'm posting it here:

Breezerider Gunboat
The Windrider has proven itself to be an effective vessel, if a very expensive one. As a result, the Design Team will be set to work on a new boat with some of the same concepts applied which will be named the 'Breezerider'.

The Breezerider will be roughly in the same size catagory as the Skyskiff, but it shall be longer than its more primative counterpart. Notably, its narrow deck will be fairly flat, with only short observation tower at rear to disrupt its flatness, and attachment points for 3 LACs will be placed in front of it in a straight line, with space to allow them to rotate in roughly a 270 degree arc (they can't point backwards, as that would cause the barrel to collide with the gun behind them unless they rotated their gun barrel away, and the rear gun would collide with the tower if it attempted to do so), enabling them to execute a full broadside blast to either side, although only a single cannon would be able to fire ahead, as a result.

As far as crystals are concerned, the Breezerider will feature 6 Trim Crystals in three pairs: One pair near the bow and stern each for excellent yaw and pitch control, and the last pair in the center. Taking lessons learned from the Windrider, the Breezerider will also feature a dual core setup, with one powering its single Lift Crystal and powering its primary shroud, and the other powering the trim crystals and weapons. The Primary Core Crystal and the Lift Crystal will be Small in Size, while the secondary core will be only Very Small, to save on costs.

Defensively, like the Windrider, the Breezerider also has a thin copper skin, except that it only covers the rooms where the primary core and lift crystal reside. Other than that and the backup shroud from its secondary core crystal, it will have no atypical defenses.

For webbing, it shall take the shape of a C (assuming the ship is facing ->), with heavy emphasis towards application on the bottom of the ship, below the gun's broadside firing arc. But at the same time, care will be taken to not overload the core crystals, although additional spars will be ran out in order to fully satisfy an Itshana Select Core, if we choose to outfit it so, but remain empty if we don't. In addition, any wiring will be carefully designed to ensure that no wires from the different cores remain firmly separate, to avoid the suspected cause of the power surges on the Windrider.


So, here it is, a cheap little gunboat that still has 75% of the Windrider's alpha strike capacity in exchange for losing its durability.
Notably, unless things go wrong and we're forced to use Itshana cores again, the ore cost of its equipment would only cost 8 ore (3 SUCKERPUNCHs, 1 Lift Crystal), rendering it a perfect fit for our current resource deficit. Shouldn't take too long for the project either, considering that it's not that much larger than a skiff and the main oddity, the dual core setup, we already have experience with.
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Re: Arms Race: War of the Cinder Spires | Spire Wreth
« Reply #1464 on: August 17, 2017, 02:12:40 pm »

Quote from: Dragun
Named for their fiery "breath", the dragun is the terror of ship everywhere.

The gun itself is a heavy bronze tube, used to launch a mix of heavy lead shot and sulfur via a gunpowder charge. The sulfur is poured in molds around the shot, creating a single "slug" that bursts when it hits, throwing shot and burning sulfur everywhere. For use against web, a shorter ranged loose mix of shot and sulfur pellets is used instead.

If time allows the engineers are intrigued by the possibilities of adding a mix of rotten iron and certain otherwise hard to ignite chemicals based on certain light silvery metals (tin, zinc, aluminum, magnesium, etc) and simple nitrates to the sulfur. These mixes are only recently discovered, but have proved to burn with incredible heat.
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« Reply #1465 on: August 17, 2017, 02:15:29 pm »

Phosphorous? Magnesium! Thermite.
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« Reply #1466 on: August 17, 2017, 02:16:41 pm »

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Dragongun: (2) Tack, Milo
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« Reply #1467 on: August 17, 2017, 02:23:24 pm »

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New Designs
U-WOT (3 dice):
Dragongun (3? dice): (2) Tack, Milo
  (5 dice:2 Cost, 2 Progress, 1 Time): (1) NUKE9.13


Ongoing Projects:
2 Dice into Windrider (12w/6o)
1 dice into Windrider (6w/3o):
No dice: (2) Tack, NUKE9.13
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« Reply #1468 on: August 17, 2017, 02:37:12 pm »

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New Designs
U-WOT (3 dice):
Dragongun (3? dice): (2) Tack, Milo
  (5 dice:2 Cost, 2 Progress, 1 Time): (1) NUKE9.13
  (4 dice:1 Cost, 2 Progress, 1 Time): (1) Jilladilla


Ongoing Projects:
2 Dice into Windrider (12w/6o)
1 dice into Windrider (6w/3o):
No dice: (2) Tack, NUKE9.13
Well, let's do this. The Dragongun likely has a bit more immediate help than the Breezerider, but won't change the fact that our only competent vessel costs an arm and both legs. I'd like to get the Breezerider up as a competent escort for our Windrider, but perhaps that time isn't now... (Also they should be able to mount this too... Turn their boat into one great inferno)
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« Reply #1469 on: August 17, 2017, 02:42:02 pm »

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New Designs
U-WOT (3 dice):
Dragun (3? dice): (1) Tack
  (5 dice:2 Cost, 2 Progress, 1 Time): (2) NUKE9.13, Milo
  (4 dice:1 Cost, 2 Progress, 1 Time): (1) Jilladilla


Ongoing Projects:
2 Dice into Windrider (12w/6o)
1 dice into Windrider (6w/3o):
No dice: (3) Tack, NUKE9.13, Milo
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