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[Draignean]

Let's add some vote boxes; anyways question @Draignean, could we replace 2 small slots for a medium slot, or would that require a revision?.

At least a revision. I mean, you don't really have a medium mount yet, which means you're basically relying on 'a really big small mount', without any additional infrastructure.

Hardpoints can't exactly be swapped around freely. You could manage something on a good revision, but 3:1 is a more likely conversion than 2:1.

[somemildmanneredidiot]

Just so you know, our current PL can make 1/3 of a Viper per turn for at most 2 Vipers maximum. So the mass of Skiffs feels more useful right now until we get a larger protective force of Vipers sorted.

Also, the Vanguard has its own Full Barrel Sheath, so we don't need to grab it quite yet.

Also again, based on Discord coversation, we'll need to revise and refit the Viper Hull even with proper Medium Mounts to get the full effectiveness of the Vanguard, so trying to get it onto a Skiff might want to wait til later.

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (1) SMMI
Viper Production Pattern: Replace Skyskiff PL
Air Reserve Forces
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (2) Shadowclaw, SMMI
Cannon Water Sheath: (1) Shadowclaw
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (1) SMMI
Expanded Weapon Slots; Skyskiffs: (1) Shadowclaw

[Kashyyk]

Just so you know, our current PL can make 1/3 of a Viper per turn for at most 2 Vipers maximum.

Where did you get this from?

Whilst a radio set is obviously a design action, we have no idea just how difficult such a project would be.
This revision is focused on providing us an estimate of the time and resource costs for such a project, without burning three dice to start it. If it happens to give us a bonus when we do create the project (since we've done some of the work already) then that would be nice, but it is not the focus of this action.

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (1) SMMI
Viper Production Pattern: Replace Skyskiff PL
Air Reserve Forces
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (3) Shadowclaw, SMMI, Kashyyk
Cannon Water Sheath: (1) Shadowclaw
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (2) SMMI, Kashyyk
Expanded Weapon Slots; Skyskiffs: (1) Shadowclaw
Crystal Radio preplanning: (1) Kashyyk

Also, I already started a vote box, which seems to have been missed.

[somemildmanneredidiot]

It was either here or on Discord, Word of GM. The PL that's making Skiffs would do 1/3 a Viper per turn and maximizes at 2 Vipers.

[Draignean]

It was either here or on Discord, Word of GM. The PL that's making Skiffs would do 1/3 a Viper per turn and maximizes at 2 Vipers.

That was the best case scenario for rolling up a viper production plan.

[VoidSlayer]

Yeaaaah, lets not do that.  I would much rather just finish the viper production line using some dice and some resources.

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (1) SMMI
Viper Production Pattern: Replace Skyskiff PL
Air Reserve Forces
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (3) Shadowclaw, SMMI, Kashyyk
Cannon Water Sheath: (1) Shadowclaw
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (2) SMMI, Kashyyk
Expanded Weapon Slots; Skyskiffs: (1) Shadowclaw
Crystal Radio preplanning: (1) Kashyyk
Rush Viper Production line with 2 revision dice + invest resources (14c + 10o +10w + 4s + 15w + 15s) for two more dice: (1) Voidslayer

[Kashyyk]

If we wanted to do that it should have been done during the project phase. We've missed our chance now.

An alternate suggestion to bring our skyskiffs back up to par is to create a new production pattern using trim webs instead of crystals. They'll be a lot more maneuverable and thus might actually survive a fight.

[Jerick]

I've been thinking; we need to at least take a peek at what's happening at the unfinished this turn. We have no idea what they're up to over there or what the situation is and not having intel on an entire flank of the battlefield makes me nervous. So I suggest;

Scouting Tactics
A ship using scouting tactics stays a considerable distance from other ships (enemy and friendly) and watches for movement in the skies. If something is detected then the ship uses a signal flasher or other means of communication (if we have one, if not we can use the primitive Wreth method of cannon fire) to signal any friendly ships in the area. If there are no friendly ships in the area the ship retreats to give it time to write a report and send it back to Kasgyr by pigeon.

Signal Flasher
The signal flasher is a simple, light based, Morse code signalling device.

I plan to send a skiff to the unfinished using scouting tactics in the strategy phase so we can find what they're up to. In addition the scouting tactic should help stop us from leaking any more enemy skiffs behind our lines. That's not something we can continue to ignore. Also while I like the idea of crystal radios I would rather a simple form of communication we can use now. A lot of our tactics would be enhanced by communications. We can and should put dice into developing crystal radios later though.

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (2) SMMI, Jerick
Viper Production Pattern: Replace Skyskiff PL
Air Reserve Forces
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (3) Shadowclaw, SMMI, Kashyyk
Cannon Water Sheath: (1) Shadowclaw
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (2) SMMI, Kashyyk
Expanded Weapon Slots; Skyskiffs: (1) Shadowclaw
Crystal Radio preplanning: (1) Kashyyk
Rush Viper Production line with 2 revision dice + invest resources (14c + 10o +10w + 4s + 15w + 15s) for two more dice: (1) Voidslayer  //Not a revision
Scouting Tactics(1) Jerick
Signal Flasher (1) Jerick

[Kashyyk]

Re. Communications: I agree that having comms now would be good, but the moment we develop radio (which will eventually be usable by our marines as well) we will obsolete pretty much every other form of communications we have. I'd prefer to start radio now instead of developing a stopgap first, bit I can definitely appreciate the other side.

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (2) SMMI, Jerick
Viper Production Pattern: Replace Skyskiff PL
Air Reserve Forces
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (3) Shadowclaw, SMMI, Kashyyk
Cannon Water Sheath: (1) Shadowclaw
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (2) SMMI, Kashyyk
Expanded Weapon Slots; Skyskiffs: (1) Shadowclaw
Crystal Radio Preplanning
Rush Viper Production line with 2 revision dice + invest resources (14c + 10o +10w + 4s + 15w + 15s) for two more dice: (1) Voidslayer  //Not a revision
Scouting Tactics(1) Jerick
Signal Flasher (1) Jerick
Add Trim Webs to SkySkiff production pattern: (1) Kashyyk

[Jerick]

I'm not sure they'll completely obsolete all other forms of communications (I mean signal lamps are still used today in real life navies). One big reason is that having a back up comn system is always a good idea if the first one has any trouble and we don't know what kind of bugs we'll get with the crystal radio. Failures might be common. Another big reason is cost; a mirror with a shutter on it will always be cheap and expendable where as a powerful crystal radio might be expensive for a place like Kasgyr to produce. Thirdly once they figure out how to intercept or at least detect our radio signals (which they will eventually) having a secondary method of communication that maintains radio silence would be useful. And finally building a communication device before going straight to the more complicated radio might give us some experience that will make creating the radio easier.

[NAV]

Signal flashers would also help save lifeboats as a minor footnote.

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (2) SMMI, Jerick
Viper Production Pattern: Replace Skyskiff PL
Air Reserve Forces
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (4) Shadowclaw, SMMI, Kashyyk, NAV
Cannon Water Sheath: (1) Shadowclaw
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (2) SMMI, Kashyyk
Expanded Weapon Slots; Skyskiffs: (1) Shadowclaw
Crystal Radio Preplanning
Rush Viper Production line with 2 revision dice + invest resources (14c + 10o +10w + 4s + 15w + 15s) for two more dice: (1) Voidslayer  //Not a revision
Scouting Tactics(1) Jerick
Signal Flasher (2) Jerick, NAV
Add Trim Webs to SkySkiff production pattern: (2) Kashyyk, NAV

[Draignean]

Alright, we have a clear frontrunner followed by a four way tie for second place.

I will grant a bit of help and say that, for the flasher,  you don't have much to revise a signal flasher from, and morse code is not a revision tier item. It might be better to bundle both into a single design.

[Kashyyk]

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (2) SMMI, Jerick
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (4) Shadowclaw, SMMI, Kashyyk, NAV
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (2) SMMI, Kashyyk
Add Trim Webs to SkySkiff production pattern: (2) Kashyyk, NAV

Eliminated:
Scouting Tactics(1) Jerick
Signal Flasher (2) Jerick, NAV
Expanded Weapon Slots; Skyskiffs: (1) Shadowclaw
Cannon Water Sheath: (1) Shadowclaw

Following GM comment, I've grouped all items with one vote (along with the Signal Flashers) to one side as "eliminated" from the running. Please redistribute your vote on to one of the remaining options.

[Shadowclaw777]

Infantry Stealth+Ambush Tactics: (2) SMMI, Jerick
Vanguard Pump Manufacturing Project: (4) Shadowclaw, SMMI, Kashyyk, NAV
Medium Ship Weaponry Mount: (3) SMMI, Kashyyk, Shadowclaw
Add Trim Webs to SkySkiff production pattern: (3) Kashyyk, NAV, Shadowclaw

[Draignean]

You only have two dice to spend. Please only vote for two things.

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