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[NAV]

I don't see how its possible to remove the ore cost from the pistol, since the barrel and cooling fins have to be made of metal to work.

Fixing the mini vanguard might be worth it, but I don't see it fully replacing the kettlegun as long as the kettlegun costs 1 ore and the minivan costs 3. If we revise it to fix leaking and reduce cost it could be amazing.

We should give our Vipers a proper medium mount that lets them actually aim and use their vanguards effectively and comfortably. Instead of the sweltering blind bullet spam we have now.

[Kashyyk]

I suppose we could instead revise the pistol to not use wood at all, but as Ore is currently more valuable than Wood, that's the one I chose to revise out the use of.

Streamlined Metal Aether Pistols Just like the other revision, except this one is intended to cut out the usage of Wood in it's entirety, without increasing Ore or Crystal cost.

We already have a Vanguard Viper version as well, which implements the Vanguard better than our current brute-force approach.

[NAV]

The vanguard viper version needs four vanguards. Giving one viper four vanguards is a terrible idea because it means that one ship suddenly becomes a massive target. It will be focused on first, and it will get shot down and we'll lose all our vanguards. We also can't effectively split our firepower between different fleets. Having one vanguard per viper in a good mount would be a lot better. I don't see us using that specialized viper anytime soon.

If we want to save on ore:
Improved Helmet Manufacturing
Switching our helmet manufacturing from ancient hand forging techniques to a modern sheet metal stamping method will allow us to produce them much more quickly and without skilled labour, greatly reducing the cost. Setting up dedicated tooling for helmets will make it just as efficient to buy them separately from the full suit.

[Doomblade187]

Let's think- what are the core elements of our military? How can we make them cheaper? That's the way forward I see.

[NAV]

Viper Medium Mount
Retrofit the Viper Corvette to include one proper medium mount, front and center. Can comfortably mount a Vanguard Cannon or any other medium cannon. Allows the gunner to look and aim where they're shooting, has some vertical and horizontal rotation, doesn't turn into a sauna. Designed with bronzewood in mind, using it to reduce the amount of structural metal needed.

Lets turn our topaz vanguards into the wunderwaffe they should be. Draig did say that a general medium mount would be easier than a specialized small mount like our current one.

Mini Vanguard 2.0
Rework and simplify the overcomplicated cooling systems left behind from the original vanguard, with the goals of reducing leakage to increase rate of fire and reducing the excessive ore cost.

[1] Gas Hood: NAV
[1] Improved Helmet Manufacturing: NAV
[1] Viper Medium Mount: NAV
[1] Mini Vanguard 2.0: NAV

[Kashyyk]

[1] Gas Hood: NAV
[1] Improved Helmet Manufacturing: NAV
[1] Viper Medium Mount: NAV
[2] Mini Vanguard 2.0: NAV, Kashyyk

I would put links, but I'm on my phone.

[Talion]

[1] Gas Hood: NAV
[1] Improved Helmet Manufacturing: NAV
[2] Viper Medium Mount: NAV, Talion
[2] Mini Vanguard 2.0: NAV, Kashyyk

[Doomblade187]

[1] Gas Hood: NAV
[1] Improved Helmet Manufacturing: NAV
[3] Viper Medium Mount: NAV, Talion, Doomblade
[2] Mini Vanguard 2.0: NAV, Kashyyk

Hmm. @Draiganean, how many more hanging crystal gardens can we build? Trying to figure out what I want to do for next turns as well. Thinking further resource improvements.

[BBBence1111]

[1] Gas Hood: NAV
[1] Improved Helmet Manufacturing: NAV
[4] Viper Medium Mount: NAV, Talion, Doomblade, BBB
[2] Mini Vanguard 2.0: NAV, Kashyyk

[Kashyyk]

We've got the max at Kasgyre, but we can have up to five or the amount off crystal yielded (whichever is more) at each demi spire.

[Draignean]

Viper Medium Mount
Efficacy: 2
With the Vanguard being the closest thing to a medium gun that Kasgyre has, but still not quite emblematic of the role, the design team fights back and forth over how big the mount should be, how much cabling it should be allowed to draw, how much structural reinforcement it needs, etc. Things get a bit crazy when one of the engineers asks what would happen if the Lance was fitted for a medium mount, which basically results in a portfolio of 'design documents' containing pictures of Kasgyrite ships firing swords of light while crude renditions of the Wrethan navy explode in the distance.

It takes a bit to get them back on track, and the eventual product of their labors is.... lackluster. It's the viper, with all the top-deck guns removed, and a far too large frontal section given over to the turret mount. Inexplicably, they've also taken out a number of the trim crystal mounts in order to divert, and this is a direct quote from the report, 'MOAR POWER TO LANCE!!! PEW PEW'. Underlying the 'pew pew' is a doodle of a viper firing a comically huge beam of aether at the Wrethan flag.

Oversight committees are looking into whether the engineers should be switched to decaf.


Viper Corvette, Medium Mount Variant: 13 wood, 5 ore for one. 2 wood, 1 ore to refit from basic Viper class.
A Variant of the Viper designed to handle a single medium mount in the top deck, with the standard 4 small mounts in the lower deck.

She has no usable cargo capacity.
Armament
1 Medium turret mount, bow.
4 Light aether mounts, bow.
2 Aft Light Cannon Mounts
Armor
None intrinsic
Can mount two sections of armor on the head.
Requires:
1 Core Crystal (At least small, up to medium)
1 Lift Crystal (At least small, up to medium)
4/6/10 Trim Crystals for poor/below average/above average
6 reams of webbing

Spoiler: Imperial Topaz (click to show/hide)

Topaz Medium Core
Topaz Vanguard
Topaz Trim Pair

Spire Kasgyre's Production stands at
13(+10)/y Crystal, 24/115 Banked
17/y Ore, 18/85 banked
19/y Wood, 26/95 banked
10/y Silk, 10/50 banked

It is now the production, deployment, and tactics phase.

Spoiler: Projects (click to show/hide)

Viper Production Line: 1/35 | 7C + 5O + 5W + 2S, +15 From any combination of any resource | Rushed 0 Times | Nothing Invested
Vertical Envelopment 2/10 | 3 from each of COWS + 4 from Any combination of COWS | Rushed 0 times | Nothing Invested
AIM (Special Project) 16/27 | - | Rushed 0 times | Nothing Invested
Lance Crystals: 1/25 | 3 Crystal | Rushed 0 Times | Nothing Invested
Medium Docks: 5/40 | 5C + 5O + 5W + 5S, +30 From any combination of any resource | Rushed 0 Times | Nothing Invested

Spoiler: Map (click to show/hide)

The Calm: The calm is a region of the aerosphere with almost no wind beyond fleeting turbulence, and absolutely no aetheric currents. It's frigidly cold, and filled with fine red 'snow' that barely moves. Traversing it with a conventional vessel is impossible due to the lack of energy to fuel the lift and trim crystals.
The Everstorm: As the name suggests, the everstorm is a region of the aerosphere dominated by an enormous and eternal thunderstorm. It's a chaotic region of raging winds and surging aetheric energy that manifests in terrible bursts of prismatic flame. No conventional vessel could hope to survive the nightmarish storm conditions.


Kasgyre Territory

Blackstone
Marine Presence: K 0/14 |  W 0/14
Territory: 4/4 | 0/4
Resources: 1C, 5O, 2W, 0S
Conditions: Rocky, large caverns, very dark

The Hive
Marine Presence: K 0/10 |  W 0/10
Territory: 4/4 | 0/4
Resources: 1C, 2O, 1W, 4S
Conditions: Spider Nursery, narrow and twisting tunnels

Glowcove
Marine Presence: K 0/20 |  W 0/20
Territory: 4/4 | 0/4
Resources: 1C, 2O, 6W, 1S
Conditions: Verdant galleries, significant bio-luminescence


The Belt

Three Captains
Marine Presence: K 4/20 |  W ?/20
Territory: 0/4 | 4/4
Squad Alpha: Captain Helm | Officer Vests | Brz. Tower Shields 1/4 | 1/4 Tpz. Pistols | 1/4 Pistols | 2/4 Witch-Hunters | 2 Squad Topaz Grenades | Brz. Tpz. Light Mobile Cover

Squad Beta: Captain Helm | Officer Vests | Brz. Tower Shields 1/4 | 1/4 Tpz. Pistols | 1/4 Pistols | 2/4 Witch-Hunters | 1 Squads Grenades | Brz. Tpz. Light Mobile Cover

Squad Gamma: Captain Helm | Officer Vests | Brz. Tower Shields 1/4 | 1/4 Tpz. Pistols | 1/4 Pistols | 2/4 Witch-Hunters |  Brz. Tpz. Light Mobile Cover

Squad Delta: Captain Helm | Officer Vests | Brz. Tower Shields 1/4 | 1/4 Tpz. Gauntlets | 1/4 Pistols | 2/4 Witch-Hunters | Brz. Light Mobile Cover [50%]
Resources: 1C, 6O, 2W, 6S
Conditions: Kinetoluminescent Ores, Heavily Infested

Wrackspire
Marine Presence: K 0/12 |  W ?/12
Territory: 0/4 | ?/4
Resources: 3C, 4O, 4W, 2S
Conditions: Unstable Aetheric Phenomena, Broken Spire

Burned Mountain
Marine Presence: K 2/24 |  W ?/24
Territory: 1/4 | ?/4
--->Marine Squad Siegward: Aetheric Pistols (3/4) | Witchhunters (2/4) | Aetheric Grenades (1 per squad)
--->Marine Squad Siegmeyer: Aetheric Pistols (3/3) | Witchhunters (1/3) | Aetheric Grenades (1 per squad) [75%]
Resources: 1C, 10O, 1W, 0S
Conditions: Inexplicably Molten Core, Hundreds of narrow tunnels and small galleries.

The Unfinished
Marine Presence: K 0/45 |  W ?/45
Territory: 0/4 | ?/4
Resources: 8C, 0O, 6W, 2S
Conditions: Unfinished infrastructure, Massive open rooms and halls.

Spoiler: Ships (click to show/hide)

RKNV Anguis - Viper Class
Loadout
1 Communications Officer
3 Light Topaz Aether Cannons+ (Kettlegun) [2 front, 1 rear]
5 Light Aether Cannon+ (Kettlegun) [4 Front, 1 Rear]
1 Topaz Vanguard Cannon (Front)
2 Sections Light Copper Armor
1 Medium Topaz Core Crystal 
1 Small Topaz Lift Crystal
10 Topaz Trim Webs
2 Topaz Trim Crystals
6 reams of webbing
Location: Three Captains
Status: Shipshape

RKNV Viperidea - Viper Class
Loadout
1 Communications Officer
10 Light Aether Cannons+ (Kettlegun) [8 front, 2 rear]
Bronzewood Hull
2 Sections Light Copper Armor
1 Medium Topaz Core Crystal 
1 Small Topaz Lift Crystal
6 Topaz Trim Crystals
8 Trim Webs Bronzewood reinforced
6 reams of webbing
Location: Three Captains
Status: Shipshape

Natalies - Skyskiff Class (x5)
Loadout
Comms Officer
2 Light Topaz Aether Cannons+ (Kettlegun)
1 Very Small Topaz Core Crystal
1 Very Small Topaz Lift Crystal
4 Topaz Trim Webs
2 reams of webbing
Location: Three Captains
Status: Shipshape

Dionysus - Transport Class
Loadout
Comms Officer
1 Small Topaz Core Crystal
1 Small Lift Crystal
2 Topaz Trim Crystals
1 ream of webbing
Carrying: 0/6
Location: Spire Kasgyre
Status: Shipshape

One Eyed-Will - Skyskiff Class (x1)
Loadout
Communications Officer
2 Light Aether Cannons+ (Kettlegun).
1 Very Small Basic Core Crystal
1 Very Small Basic Lift Crystal
4 Trim Crystals
2 reams of webbing
Location:  Burned Mountain
Status: Shipshape

Natalie X - Skyskiff Class (x1)
Loadout
2 Light Topaz Aether Cannons+ (Kettlegun)
1 Very Small Topaz Core Crystal
1 Very Small Topaz Lift Crystal
4 Topaz Trim Webs
2 reams of webbing
Location: Spire Kasgyre
Status: Shipshape

RKNV Causinae - Viper Class
Loadout
1 Communications Officer
10 Light Aether Cannons+ (Kettlegun) [8 front, 2 rear]
Standard Hull
Small Topaz Core
1 Small Standard Lift Crystal
12 Standard Trim Crystals
6 reams of webbing
Location: Three Captains
Status: Shipshape

RKNV Jupiter - Battlebarge Class
Loadout
1 Communications Officer
4 Light Aether Cannons+ (Kettlegun) [2 front, 2 rear]
Bronzewood Hull
Medium Topaz Core
1 Small Topaz Lift Crystal
12 Standard Trim Crystals
5 reams of webbing
Location: Three Captains
Status: Shipshape

Spoiler: Goods Stockpile (click to show/hide)

Topaz S Lift x1
Topaz Trim pair x2
Topaz Trim Web x1
Topaz Vanguard
Topaz Trim x2

Spoiler: Infantry (click to show/hide)

Marines x19

Current Technology

[Kashyyk]

I suppose it isn't dreadful. Not exactly good either though.

Anyway, it is guaranteed that they will try to claim back TC's airspace now that we have deployed infantry there, so we should try and do something about that.

[helmacon]

We either need to pull back, or do as they did and snipe transports to buy time.

We are down a viper and a few skiffs, I doubt we would win in a major engagement.

[NAV]

Production
Buy Topaz Vanguard (3c 5o)
Buy topaz trim pair (1c)
Buy 6 squads of aether grenades (6c 6o)
Buy 3 signal flashers (1c 1o 1 squad)
=12 ore, 11 crystal, 1 squad

Give Natalie X a comm officer.

Load 3 squads equipped with 2 grenades each on the Dionysus. Named Epsilon, Zeta, and Eta.

Deployment
Natalie X escorts Dionysus to Three Captains.
Battlebarge Jupiter scouts back to Kasgyre.
One-Eyed Will scouts back to Three Captains.

Every other ship at Three Captains (Anguis, Viperidae, Causinae, 5 Natalies) use coordinated fire. Firing at transports first.

Squads Alpha and Beta continue to use shield wall. Squads Gamma and Delta flank.
Dionysus lands its troops.
Squads Epsilon, Zeta, and Eta act as reserve, reinforcing the other squads with troops and grenades. Also setting traps with prepared bait and strike to help in case we are pushed back any amount. If we advance then disable the traps and keep the grenades.

The squads at Burned Mountain also set traps and use prepared bait and strike, on the slim chance that Wreth boots come stomping in. Also remember the trap locations so they can keep the grenades.

This plan is to defend Three Captains airspace. We could retreat instead and leave a few ambusher skiffs. We could also potentially keep Jupiter there as another defender, mainly to tank hits since it is our most durable ship.

It pains me to not buy the topaz medium core, but we need that topaz vanguard and we need to send more grenades to Three Captains.

[Doomblade187]

Plan looks pretty good. Are we going to mount the topaz on a viper next turn?