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Mind-bogglingly popular game series that you follow from early on and cannot stop, waiting for new installment like a drooling addict.

Long-runner soap opera you're too invested into to just stop watching it.

A fun little comic strip in the daily newspaper that's been around forever.

3/6

Who said it's fun? I didn't for sure.

I'm just waiting here for it to die horribly already so it will stop showing on my Unread Posts list.

[Harry Baldman]

C, crafts it is!

[Hotfire90]

C

[Iituem]

BA, although mention that should they ever be after lots of gold we'll be willing to discuss steel again in the future.

Edit:  Why are so many people voting for C?  There are still perfectly good deals on the table, and Cyl long proved that getting short with dwarves (pun intended) doesn't help.

[crazyabe]

BA.

[Criptfeind]

BA, although mention that should they ever be after lots of gold we'll be willing to discuss steel again in the future.

Edit:  Why are so many people voting for C?  There are still perfectly good deals on the table, and Cyl long proved that getting short with dwarves (pun intended) doesn't help.

Whats the good deal? Paying gold for something we already buy for a minmal amount? Unless they want less then 1 econ worth of gold per year it doesn't seem like we get anything from that deal except giving the dwarves the ability to disrupt our military when they choose. Certainly letting them set up banks is a terrible deal for us.

Maybe steel could be worth paying double... Maybe. But no one seems to be voting for that.

If there was a polite way to say "Well, sorry no deal bye." I would vote for that, but there is not.

[VoidSlayer]

BA

They will offer steel again eventually.

[Maximum Spin]

BA

[Taricus]

C, Cript's reasoning is sound, and the dwarves are assholes.

[vastaghen12]

C

[mightymushroom]

Paying for ingredients through the dwarves instead of through the Fireblood Court doesn't sound like any improvement -- if anything, they guarantee to relieve our "excess"!

B E

But I don't mind artifact now and seeing if we can't get crafts going if it pops up again.

[omada]

fireblood court costs 1 gold, without the ingredients , ti costs 1 wealth with the ingredients

what the hell is the deal? 1 economy for 1 economy?

Okay okay okay, it will also mean our money will still be valuable, and maybe we can have higher stocks of fireblood? I remenber some long battles we having problem with the stock running out

Haspen: Can we chose BA AND have crafts? we are wise, we know we are likely to find more mines with these settlement projects, we also know that is the perfect moment to talk with them about Tift wine and to give them a sample

[Weirdsound]

BA

[Harry Baldman]

BA, although mention that should they ever be after lots of gold we'll be willing to discuss steel again in the future.

Edit:  Why are so many people voting for C?  There are still perfectly good deals on the table, and Cyl long proved that getting short with dwarves (pun intended) doesn't help.

We're not getting short with the dwarves, it's just that they don't have anything of value to offer us. The Fireblood ingredients are a terrible deal because we spend gold for Fireblood ingredients already, and probably less of it at that than we would offloading gold to the dwarves. The Vaults don't seem all that useful either - the dwarven steel was something that could be useful militarily and constituted a new kind of trade good that we could find additional uses for, but since they're not offering it we might as well try and make something cool out of that gold ourselves - such as excellent art with the help of a state patronage program that could advance us culturally and produce new economically relevant goods in their own right.

[omada]

BA, although mention that should they ever be after lots of gold we'll be willing to discuss steel again in the future.

Edit:  Why are so many people voting for C?  There are still perfectly good deals on the table, and Cyl long proved that getting short with dwarves (pun intended) doesn't help.

We're not getting short with the dwarves, it's just that they don't have anything of value to offer us. The Fireblood ingredients are a terrible deal because we spend gold for Fireblood ingredients already, and probably less of it at that than we would offloading gold to the dwarves. The Vaults don't seem all that useful either - the dwarven steel was something that could be useful militarily and constituted a new kind of trade good that we could find additional uses for, but since they're not offering it we might as well try and make something cool out of that gold ourselves - such as excellent art with the help of a state patronage program that could advance us culturally and produce new economically relevant goods in their own right.

C, convinced


and we can call Agaresians, we can talk with Calvedocians and other foreign nations

Will gutba accept silver for spices again?

[Blood_Librarian]

BA

By banking with the dwarves, we decrease the bonus for conflict against us by putting up potential collateral in terms of future income, in essence we secure one front.