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« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2017, 09:20:50 am »

Spacex did another boringly competent landing... UNTIL THE HORNETS AWOKE!
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« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2017, 11:29:56 am »

Was there a hornets nest in front of the camera or something?
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« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2017, 01:16:59 pm »

I can see the headlines

"SpaceX program terminated after horrible swollen death of cameraman"
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« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2017, 01:38:40 pm »

Foul evil creatures that hornets are.
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« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2017, 01:58:01 pm »

There's been a hornet nest somewhere in the vicinity of my backyard for a few years now. They used to be restricted to the southernmost parts of the Netherlands (Limburg), but temperate winters and warm summers has been allowing them further up north.
The European hornet is harmless enough though as long as you don't go near their nest. Not agressive at all, and also not hunting for sweets like the annoying wasp do in late season. There's just a handful of them roaming my garden in summer, most likely hunting bees. They're quite pretty, with red legs, and red/black neck shields.

EDIT: they're also proficient navigators. While bees, bumblebees, and the various type of hoverflies regularily fly through my backdoor and get themselves stuck flyng between the front and back window until I catch them in a glass and release them back outside, the hornets, despite them seeming particularily fond of the white painted wall next to my backyard door, never fly inside and get themselves trapped.

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« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2017, 02:19:55 pm »

Yeah, I think it was actually just wasps near the camera, but in this part of the country and over where spacex is, hornet is just as likely to refer to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald-faced_hornet who are not chill, I will straight up pet bumblebees, politely relocate bees, and rescue mud-daubers that get stuck in the pool by scooping them up so they can dry and fly off.

Fuck bald-faced hornets, and fuck yellowjackets, they get backhanded and stomped and the nest gets burned, they exist to fuck your shit up, so fuck theirs up first!

"But they help control pest insects" so what, I'll leave that to spiders thanks, they're chill, never had a spider decide to come chase me and send a horde of their buddies after me, which to be fair would be horrific, but hornets and wasps do that shit as a matter of course so they get to live in the woods away from me.
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« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2017, 02:41:47 pm »

Yeah, I think it was actually just wasps near the camera, but in this part of the country and over where spacex is, hornet is just as likely to refer to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald-faced_hornet who are not chill, I will straight up pet bumblebees, politely relocate bees, and rescue mud-daubers that get stuck in the pool by scooping them up so they can dry and fly off.

Fuck bald-faced hornets, and fuck yellowjackets, they get backhanded and stomped and the nest gets burned, they exist to fuck your shit up, so fuck theirs up first!

"But they help control pest insects" so what, I'll leave that to spiders thanks, they're chill, never had a spider decide to come chase me and send a horde of their buddies after me, which to be fair would be horrific, but hornets and wasps do that shit as a matter of course so they get to live in the woods away from me.
Killing hornets/wasps without using something to mask their pheromones is bound to draw their attention. And every single one for miles around even from different hives will head straight there and be angry little stripy bastards.
Bees are so much nicer. Hard to imagine they are related distantly.
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« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2017, 05:30:20 pm »

This interactive graphic on the measured warming/cooling effect of all major factors is masterfully put together. I know it's old but I just camne across it due to it being posted elsewhere:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

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« Reply #68 on: June 05, 2017, 05:40:42 pm »

This interactive graphic on the measured warming/cooling effect of all major factors is masterfully put together. I know it's old but I just camne across it due to it being posted elsewhere:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/
I like it, thanks. unfortunately wont stop the nutters screaming about conspiracy and how its the natural cycle or some shit about volcanoes.
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« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2017, 12:40:25 am »

A plausible explanation for the Wow! Signal has been found - the hydrogen trails of passing comets.

Now they just gotta figure out which comet it was that the Wow! signal came from in order to confirm for sure.

As a side effect, this could actually be a pretty good detection method of that particular type of comet.
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« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2017, 08:46:06 am »

A plausible explanation beats a neat guess any day, though I never knew anyone took seriously the idea that it was aliens instead of something like a massive merger event, shooting ultra high energy particles at us doesn't make much sense for an ET unless there are far more of them.
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« Reply #73 on: June 07, 2017, 10:31:27 am »

Given the extreme distances involved, any serious space-faring species is going to need something more advanced than lightspeed comm.

This is like a bunch of cave people asserting that they cant hear drumming or see smoke signals coming from New York, and concluding that the people of new york either dont exist, or that they dont want to communicate.  The fact that the cave people dont have cellphones never dawns on the cave people.

To put it bluntly, we cave people dont have cellphones. We wont be hearing ET any time soon.  We might see their tire tracks, or hear their whizzbang spaceships as they cruise around if they make a lot of noise, but we wont be able to clearly identify them we we did.
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« Reply #74 on: June 07, 2017, 10:35:05 am »

Unless they make a deliberate attempt at communicating in a way we would understand. Such an attempt would likely be from close by (I.E. Inside the Sol System) and very obvious.
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