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Elendil

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Aquifer making me crazy.
« on: April 30, 2017, 05:29:18 pm »

I've picked up DF again after a long hiatus. I'd forgotten just how much "fun" it can be.

THis time I am determined to pierce an aquifer. I'm trying to follow the tutorial in the Wiki exactly and can get through the upper layers no problem. Then, when I get to the last layer, the "fun" intensifies.

I get the upper half walled off, then at the step in the tutorial where it says: "Deconstruct the ramp in the source tile of the pump and build a wall there." I get completely stuck. It's weird. When I start building the wall, it very quickly gets to the point where it says "Construction Nearly Done", with maybe 2 or 3 cancellations only. Then it just won't go any further. I see my dwarves getting to the site, but nothing more happens. It cancels again and again with "site submerged." Months and months of game time go by and more "fun" starts to happen elsewhere in my fortress. Why did it get this far so easily and then no more?

Any suggestions or help appreciated.

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Snafu

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Re: Aquifer making me crazy.
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2017, 06:24:16 pm »

Precise version required..
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anewaname

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Re: Aquifer making me crazy.
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 01:30:27 am »

Outside of a possible bug, there might be a forbidden item in the location of the construction. The last step of a construction is to remove items from the location and forbidden items (like the clothing from that dwarf that drowned) will cause construction to be suspended. If yes, 'd' 'b' 'c' on all items in your drowning pool stairwell and then it should finish up in a few tries.

If that doesn't do it, and there are still too many "submerged" messages, and you have a pump operator who is working (because if one drowned and the other one needed to sleep), then use imgur.com to post a picture of the screwpump z level and the level below that.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 01:33:31 am by anewaname »
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There is something to be said about, if the stakes are as high, maybe reconsider your certitudes. One has to be aggressively allistic to feel entitled to be able to trust. But it won't happen to me, my bit doesn't count etc etc... Just saying, after my recent experiences I couldn't trust the public if I wanted to. People got their risk assessment neurons rotten and replaced with game theory. Folks walk around like fat turkeys taunting the world to slaughter them.

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Re: Aquifer making me crazy.
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 04:53:26 am »

Some building steps take lots and lots of cancellations before they're done. Getting the submerged message indicates the pump is actually operated, because the building job won't be taken up until the job can actually be performed (which need no longer be the case when the dorf arrives to the building site).
When I'm piercing an aquifer I generally disable construction on all dorfs except the miners, and only the miners have the pump operator job. Outside of that, they do not have any jobs (except mining, of course, and I'm only designating small amounts of mining when one of them is asleep). The reason for this is that when the job is broken off due to building site submersion, the dorf will be nearby and unoccupied when the job becomes available again, rather than have someone on the other side of the map taking up the job, trek for a day, and then give up as the tile is submerged upon being reached, and another dorf across the map takes up the job...
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Elendil

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Re: Aquifer making me crazy.
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 06:43:24 pm »

Thanks for all the tips. With liberal use of save files, and at the cost of 3 drowned dwarves, I finally got through!

Feels like an accomplishment. Sweet, sweet rock.
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anewaname

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Re: Aquifer making me crazy.
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2017, 03:49:40 am »

Haha... It is an accomplishment. I suspect there was a lot of craziness before the double slit method was posted. Don't forget to "not dig up".
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There is something to be said about, if the stakes are as high, maybe reconsider your certitudes. One has to be aggressively allistic to feel entitled to be able to trust. But it won't happen to me, my bit doesn't count etc etc... Just saying, after my recent experiences I couldn't trust the public if I wanted to. People got their risk assessment neurons rotten and replaced with game theory. Folks walk around like fat turkeys taunting the world to slaughter them.