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Truean

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I have set up a very nice clothing and leather industry, and made several masterwork leather armors out of grizzly bear leather for my melee dwarves to try on for now. (My metalworks is coming along nicely, and I'd like to throw metal on overtop of it later, but for now...). I have also made several pairs of masterwork pig tail cloth trousers.

None of the dwarves will wear these.

Military uniform includes leather armor.

I know a couple civilians who need new clothes....

Nobody will change their clothes to the newer, nicer stuff.

What am I doing wrong? 

How do I get these dwarves to just put on the nice clothes and armor I made for them instead of having them wear worn out junk? They each have a large room with cabinet in it even....
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You will end up at the wiki for armor a lot.

The civilians are not wearing the leather armor because it is not part of their civvy uniform.
The "civilian uniform" will vary a bit from civ to civ but will be something like
 
This means that civilians will attempt to wear all of those things, of any material. A miner, hunter, or woodcutter will add their tools-of-the-trade to civvy uniform.

Note there is no "leather armor" on that list. If you used the leather to make "leather robe" and "leather trousers" then they would see it and think "Oh new stuff! Must have".

That is basically how civilian dwarf uniforms work, and you can't adjust them.

To get them to wear the leather armor as part of their military uniform, those dwarfs need to go into the military and be assigned a uniform.
Look at this other image
Here I added "leather armor", replaced "cap" with "helm", replaced "gloves" with "white gauntlets", and added "white greaves". I also added a second pair of socks and second pair of shoes and shield and weapon. If a squad, or just a position in a squad, has this uniform assigned to them, then that dwarf will attempt to wear that uniform. In DwarfTherapist, the equipped dwarf has this gear:


By giving a uniform the doubled shoe/sock/boot, you avoid the buggy thing where dwarfs will only wear one sock on their foot. The more common way is to avoid the bug is to go to each squad position and assign specific shoes/socks/boots, but that annoys me so I do this instead. You need to make more shoes and socks, but they fully cover their feet and replace/upgrade gear without my needing to tell them too.
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My impression of civilian clothing differs from what I understand anewaname describes.

I believe civilians will wear one clothing item from each layer (as described by the armor wiki) on each body part, if they can get hold of it (some things, like underwear, cannot be produced by dorfs, which is a reason kids rush out to the battle field to grab blood soaked thongs, and then starts to play make believe out there in the open). The clothing industry can produce items that cover 10 different body parts/layers (which nicely matches the maximum number of items you can have on repeat), and usually there are two duplicates (i.e. there are 12 things you can make, but there are two pairs of items covering the same body part and layer).

As anweaname said, armor won't be worn by civilians, but clothes can be worn my militia (but be aware of conflicts between "shaped" items, if that issue hasn't been removed recently; ordering militia to wear a uniform "over clothing" usually led to half of the uniform never being worn due to conflicts).

Civilians replace their old clothing when they get worn to the first 'x' level after two years if replacements are available, and they will also grab fancier stuff than what they're currently wearing if available. Old items are hauled to their rooms and stuffed in cabinets or dropped on the floor.

Militia replace uniform items with better ones on their own (they have a tendency to drop their gear when on one station because they claimed new stuff when you station them elsewhere, and either sneak off to grab the new gear or go into battle half naked).
It used to be that militia did not replace civilian clothing parts of uniforms until they completely rotted off: I don't know if the introduction of armor combat wear causes militia to replace damaged equipment and/or clothing.
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My impression of civilian clothing differs from what I understand anewaname describes.
Yes, I am just giving an approximation of how it works, in comparison to military uniforms. I forgot to mention that while I don't know why the military dwarfs were not equipping the leather armor, if they are idle and can path to it, they usually go straight for it. By going over the uniforms and how they work, I'm trying to get Truean to look at his uniforms and dwarfs differently.
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