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Total Members Voted: 106

[Parsely]

Yeah, Kot, 27mm isn't exactly going to eat medium tanks, that's baloney.

But 27mm is still the right choice for killing aircraft. The reason 27mm is a good choice is because it's optimizing the number of barrels and rate of fire with the range at which a man can accurately sight and fire on an aircraft by mechanical means. Radar is a bonus and it makes sense for the Shilka because the tank is designed to fire on the move which reduces your expected effective range (even though in practice the Shilka usually fires from a stationary position). That's clearly not the intent with the Sewing Machine but I expect that more often than not men will be using these without radar assistance, so in the end I think 23mm wins out for the task of killing aircraft.

UF-SPAAS-44 "Sewing Machine": (3) Kot, Wizgrot, Parsely
Stencil Pack: (1) eS
UF-SPAA-44 'Hayat': (1) Madman

[RAM]

UF-SPAAS-44 "Sewing Machine": (3) Kot, Wizgrot, Parsely
Stencil Pack: (1) eS
UF-SPAA-44 'Hayat': (1) Madman
Transistors: 1 RAM

[Taricus]

Yeah, Kot, 27mm isn't exactly going to eat medium tanks, that's baloney.

Good thing Cannala doesn't have medium tanks then

UF-SPAAS-44 "Sewing Machine": (4) Kot, Wizgrot, Parsely, Taricus
Stencil Pack: (1) eS
UF-SPAA-44 'Hayat': (1) Madman

[Light forger]

About the sewing machine we can't get proximity rounds on it. Cannla's proximity rounds are limited to shells 100mm and up, so using them on 30mm autocannons rounds are a no go.

[Taricus]

We've got better RADAR tech though, and we have managed to make cheap, small RADAR. Downsizing it nad making it passive shouldn't be too hard.

[Powder Miner]

I would definitely avoid gunning for the proxy fuzes because you’re doing that as part of a revision which already isn’t quite insignificant, with a missile’s proxy system we don’t even fully understand.

[Olith McHuman]

30mm? You might be able to fit a single vacuum tube inside that. Unless proximity fuses somehow don't need an amplification circuit...

Jet Engine Reliability Overhaul

A series of reliability upgraded to our jet fleet and ground equipment, with a focus on winter weather operations and planes with a "Q" in their name. Engines are tweaked to better handle wet air, de-icing sprays (inspired by Cannalan rum, but actually produced by horses due to sanitation concerns) are rolled out to remove ice from planes before use, an electric heater is installed in aircraft wings to inhibit ice buildup in flight, and "Q"s work correctly. Also call it the Master Edition, because our music is like, 30 years ahead of its time, man.

(Target of normal difficulty, unless I'm underestimating the engine tweaks. Q fixes should be trivial difficulty this time.)

UF-SPAAS-44 "Sewing Machine": (4) Kot, Wizgrot, Parsely, Taricus
Stencil Pack: (1) eS
UF-SPAA-44 'Hayat': (1) Madman
Jet Engine Reliability Overhaul: (1) McHuman

[evictedSaint]

You should give it the "Master Edition" suffix

You know, so it can be the "Very Very Frightening ME"

[Kot]

Hm. I suppose the smallest I've seen VT fuze fitting was like 40mm, but the argument of "it actually doesn't have enough explosive to meaningfully explode in proximity" hokds.

[Sensei]

UF-SPAAS-44 "Sewing Machine"

The Sewing Machine is essentially another revision of the Velociraptor autocannon, based on the VVF version, this time lengthening the barrels significantly, making them water-cooled and quad-linking them together for higher fire rate of at least 3000 rounds per minute.
The weapon is mounted in a special powered (to make very fast turns possible) mount that's either available as a separate trailer, mounted on Artemis trucks or instead of a Salamander turret, with any armour on the gun being a secondary concern. It should also be mounted on ships (and other anti-aircraft places that need it) were applicable, most notably on destroyers where they would also be useful against enemy torpedo boats.
The mounting itself should contain a system that somewhat resembles the Long Shot guidance, except adapted for anti-air use, where the gun can be linked to an external radar , either static, carried by another truck or ship-based one, which will make acquiring, tracking and destroying enemy targets much easier, but the gun is also possible to aim by hand.
The ammuniton itself should also be revised to maximize penetration on AP and also include proximity fuzes on fragmentation rounds.

Very hard: 1
UF-SPAAS-44 "Sewing Machine": The Sewing Machine is a quad-mount turret for Velociraptor guns, mounted on an Artemis truck. A second truck carries a radar array which can control the gun (through hydraulic motors) based on a system similar to the Longshot. Like the Longshot, the control over the motors isn't terribly precise, and it's especially not precise enough to aim at aircraft. For this reason it's controlled manually by a gunner, the automatic-aim system moves the entire gunner seat and the gunner aims relative to where the radar is pointing the run, trying to estimate for lead and drop as well as general inaccuracy. Unfortunately this is quite hard to do. At least gunners get Horsekiller-style optical sights to help them out. [Complex] [4 Ore, 2 Oil]

[evictedSaint]

3 times in a row smh.

[Cnidaros]

Clearly we should have spent the revision on better dice instead.

[VoidSlayer]

Clearly we should have spent the revision on better dice instead.

Well it would have got a 1 so...

[evictedSaint]

Well, without the AA, maybe pushing jungle this turn is a bad idea.

South and Vlanlados?

[Madman198237]

We still HAVE the AA, and it'll work just fine without radar guidance, as far as shoot down helos goes.

Also, Sensei still needs to reconsider the design proposal, because he appears to have misunderstood how it worked with radar.