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Which team did you play in the last game?

Glorious Arstotzka
- 17 (16%)
Glorious Moskurg
- 13 (12.3%)
Ingloriously Didn't Play
- 76 (71.7%)

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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 602256 times)

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4095 on: June 20, 2017, 10:53:08 am »

At that point, you're not making a glide bomb, but a remote controlled kamikaze plane.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4096 on: June 20, 2017, 12:19:42 pm »

No.


It won't have an engine.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4097 on: June 20, 2017, 12:48:01 pm »

No.


It won't have an engine.
Although... why not? PAROI!

...wait, that just brings us back around to guided missiles.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4098 on: June 20, 2017, 01:20:25 pm »

Hey, you know what, if we can just deploy a radio-guided rocket/missile/weapon of lunacy ultimate warfare, I'll vote for it.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4099 on: June 20, 2017, 01:39:49 pm »

Remote controlled Kamikaze glider then.

Point is, if you want to make the bomb a better glider, it'll need wings, and then it doesn't fit in the cargo bay anymore.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4100 on: June 20, 2017, 01:49:06 pm »

We could always just do a wire-guided ATGM.  Then we don't have to worry about mounting it on a plane and we get the valuable guided munitions experience.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4101 on: June 20, 2017, 01:52:58 pm »

Wire-guided munitions won't do much at sea however. And they won't do much on the shoreline either if we manage to hold the beaches this turn and thus gain access to cheap thunderbirds and haasts. And HAFBs.

Simply put we'll have enough airborne firepower to effectively crush any further invasion attempts so we can afford to go after the seas themselves.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4102 on: June 20, 2017, 02:01:54 pm »

Wire-guided munitions won't do much at sea however.
This looks like a job for...DR SUBMARINE! And his trusty side kick, TORPEDO BOY!....I'll take myself out now.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4103 on: June 20, 2017, 02:04:22 pm »

Which is going to add another design or three to the list of trying to make navally useful guided munitions.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4104 on: June 20, 2017, 02:14:22 pm »

After some thought and talk, I am putting up a new version of the Ekaterina.

UF-GEV-41 "Ekaterina

This is a plane with short, stubby wings. By all rights it shouldn't fly, and in fact it employs an aerodynamic effect known as ground effect to boost its lift and reduce drag, by staying close to the surface.
To retain stability in this region, it uses a T shaped tail, on which a single powerful turboprop engine is mounted.
The aircraft itself is fairly small but has 2 crewmembers: a pilot and a gunner for the Sorraia turret.
Besides the turret the only other weapon it carries is torpedo mounts. Thanks to the reduction in guns, armor, plus the more powerful engine, combined with the benefits of ground effect, should allow it to lift 3 or 4 tons of torpedoes in its tubes.
This strange plane is meant to be deployed as a motor torpedo boat, using its great speed to avoid enemy artillery while it deploys its payload.
Being airborne, it is significantly faster than any boat we could ever deploy.
For the joy of some engineers, it floats when not airborne.


Basically, I removed all the heavy stuff and reduced engines.
If we compare it to haast it has 4 less autcannons and 1 less machinegun ( and a LOT less ammunition), no bathtube and a better engine. Combine with ground effect, and it should be feasible to go from 1 ton payload to 3 tons.
And Haast may be slow, but this thing will take the role of a boat. It shouldn't have interceptor tier speed anyway.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2017, 02:22:33 pm by andrea »
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4105 on: June 20, 2017, 02:18:34 pm »

I'd just point out that you probably don't want torpedo tubes on this thing so much as underslung torpedoes that just drop. Saves weight. Although, not knowing much of the physics behind ground effect aircraft/seaaircraft, that might be something to research first.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4106 on: June 20, 2017, 02:23:11 pm »

modified to torpedo mounts. Sometimes I still think of it as a boat.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4107 on: June 20, 2017, 02:40:57 pm »

On a side note, if we're still holding the enemy of the beaches next turn, I thought of something easy to do to solve it.


Canalla's lander is 90 meters long. It's pretty gigantic, and as such struggles to get on the beaches in the first place. It should be easy to weld some steel frames together and prevent their boats from making landfall.

Edit: We don't even need to do that. Just get the Moskurgians to roll their stones into the Sea.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4108 on: June 20, 2017, 03:23:08 pm »

Canalla's lander is 90 meters long. It's pretty gigantic, and as such struggles to get on the beaches in the first place. It should be easy to weld some steel frames together and prevent their boats from making landfall.

You mean implement large number of Dragon's Teeth fortifications?  Maybe mix it wit Barbed Wire (I don't think that's been mentioned as being already existing.  Both could be an easy boost if it hasn't.)?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1941 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #4109 on: June 20, 2017, 03:30:05 pm »

I think he meant to deploy them in water, so their huuuge "lander" can't approach enough to deploy equipment effectively.
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