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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 603744 times)

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3285 on: June 06, 2017, 08:11:43 am »

We MIGHT gain a bit of ground by leaping over them in gunfire, but gun-ranging radar would be so much better to have BEFORE creating a massive gun like this. The ability to install radar in aircraft (Especially merely Expensive jet aircraft) would be a massive advantage.

Basically, radar is mentioned as NEARLY helping us, except their radar is better in every way but ship-detection. If we could improve it like this, so that a pair of radar units can be installed on most warships, THEN we could reinvent the wheel, make a large cannon, and a large cruiser.

But first, we really ought to fix our radar.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3286 on: June 06, 2017, 08:14:59 am »

Fixing radar can be done in a revision.

Hell, I'd argue for including a gun laying radar in the cannon design. It's not that hard a design after all.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3287 on: June 06, 2017, 08:22:08 am »

No. The radar doesn't need to be fixed, but rather miniaturized and possibly even buffed for range.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3288 on: June 06, 2017, 08:23:40 am »

I see no reason why that can not be done in a revision.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3289 on: June 06, 2017, 08:26:21 am »

Because it's a leap in technology. Especially since I want fighter-sized aircraft as well.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3290 on: June 06, 2017, 08:33:30 am »

Range+miniaturization is a design.  Doing it in a revision would require two revisions.



Here's a thought: we design a better jet this turn and present it to Germany.  Our Thunderbird is about equivalent to the me 262, but we have the chance to leap forward their tech by ten years here.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3291 on: June 06, 2017, 08:36:25 am »

I dunno, including rangefinding equipment in the artillery system make sense IMHO.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3292 on: June 06, 2017, 09:29:12 am »

Cavity magnetrons (which we need for small radar systems) would probably be Hard as a design. As a revision, they would be VH. We absolutely should develop them at some point, though they are not a priority at the moment, I feel.

Anyway, I support developing a coastal gun. I just can't stand it not using the proper naming system, though.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3293 on: June 06, 2017, 09:37:49 am »

I think we can include some rangefinding progress in the coastal gun design. I mean, at worst if we can't make the radar smaller, at least we can interface it with our fixed radars and gain experience on that.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3294 on: June 06, 2017, 09:40:04 am »

Nuke, if you make an identical proposal to the 300 mm that uses a proper naming system, I'd vote for it.

Our radar is worth investing in, but I think we've decided to invest in a Cruiser this turn and the next.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3295 on: June 06, 2017, 09:47:48 am »

The problem is, I'm not sure we'll have the time to do that.

Lots of stuff the Cannalan's could do in 2 turns time.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3296 on: June 06, 2017, 10:00:11 am »

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UF-ASA-40 "Overcompensator" Coastal Artillery System

The Overcompensator's centerpiece is a new 30cm/45 calibers gun, mounted in an armored turret with an underground magazine and an electic powder hoist.
This massive gun can shoot a 380 kg unassisted shell at over 25 km, or use a rocket-boosted shell for a reduced explosive power at even longer range.

One or several turrets are linked to a fire control center that includes optical and radar rangefinders as well as an analog firing computer, allowing accurate aim even in foggy weather or in windy conditions. Overcompensator emplacement will usually be equipped with a number of AAA pieces to defend against air attacks.

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0 "Caviar Soup" support ship:
0 "Paralytic Sneeze" bombardment ship:
4 'Compensator' 300mm Coastal Gun: Khan Boyzitbig, Piratejoe, evictedSaint, 10ebbor10
0 "Caviar Soup Again?" support ship:
1 Ray of Deadlier Death: Madman198237
1 UF-ASA-40 "Overcompensator" Coastal Artillery System: Sheb
« Last Edit: June 06, 2017, 01:57:30 pm by Sheb »
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3297 on: June 06, 2017, 10:01:29 am »

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0 "Caviar Soup" support ship:
0 "Paralytic Sneeze" bombardment ship:
3 'Compensator' 300mm Coastal Gun: Khan Boyzitbig, Piratejoe, evictedSaint,
0 "Caviar Soup Again?" support ship:
1 Ray of Deadlier Death: Madman198237
1 UF-CAS-40 "Overcompensator" Coastal Artillery System: Sheb, 10ebbor10
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3298 on: June 06, 2017, 10:04:16 am »

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0 "Caviar Soup" support ship:
0 "Paralytic Sneeze" bombardment ship:
2 'Compensator' 300mm Coastal Gun: Khan Boyzitbig, Piratejoe
0 "Caviar Soup Again?" support ship:
1 Ray of Deadlier Death: Madman198237
3 UF-CAS-40 "Overcompensator" Coastal Artillery System: Sheb, 10ebbor10, evictedSaint

Could you name it something other than CAS? That also stands for Close Air Support.  Maybe ASCB, for Anti-Ship Coastal Battery?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1940 (Design Phase)
« Reply #3299 on: June 06, 2017, 10:08:16 am »

By the way, Evictedsaint, sheb needs you to add him to forenia channel in discord.
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