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Glorious Arstotzka

17 (16%)

Glorious Moskurg

13 (12.3%)

Ingloriously Didn't Play

76 (71.7%)

Total Members Voted: 106

[piratejoe]

Whistles innocently as they place this here for the future.

Spoiler: UFAF-SHB-4X "Hammer of Forenia" (click to show/hide)

The UFAF-SHB-4X "Hammer of Forenia" Is designed by Joseph Izz Stalling, an ace pilot of Forenia and part time designer who is also the same guy who designed the Ice giant, only this time he probably downed 10 vodka's before designing this titan of a bomber. The gargantuan bomber has a grand total of 10 large jet engines on its massive wings that are air and water cooled with self sealing tanks with five on each wing, it has this many engines as its designed to have a max payload of around about 20 tonnes. It is armed with 12 turrets, all armed with 2 20mm autocannons with 2 turrets at the top, two at the bottom, two on the left, two on the right, two on the tail and two on the nose. The whole cabin is pressurized and the bombardier is in a compartment just above the bomb bay that is connected with the main cabin and has bombing sights for aiming, naturally, there are oxygen masks in case of a breach by enemy fire. The design is also armored quite a bit as to increase survivability. The reinforced retractable landing gear are located in the wings and near the nose and are quite large to support the aircraft. The aircraft also has two loudspeaker systems in addition to the radio in the front, one labeled "For ordering the crew around" that is mostly to tell the bombardier they are near the target. And the other labeled "Taunt" which is just attached to a loudspeaker that is outside the aircraft, mostly for moral reasons. There are also eight small compartments near the nose and near the tail for snacks and maybe a pistol if any of the aircrew wants to take one, just in case the aircraft somehow crashes and they land behind enemy lines, near these compartments, there is the lockers for parachutes. There is also a civilian version of the design next to the military version, but that wasn't taken here for discussion and instead was given to GloryStar Airlines.

[RAM]

I feel that jets make more sense on medium bombers than heavy bombers...

[piratejoe]

Well, this isn't a heavy bomber, its a super heavy bomber. There is a difference.

[Sheb]

(5) aT-J04: Azzuro,Piratejoe, Powder Miner, Taricus, Wolfhunter107
(2) UF-AC-40 'Khopesh': Light forger, Funk
(7) UFS-CV-40b 'Sea Lift' Pattern A: evictedSaint, Happerry, Kashyyk, Madman198237, NUKE9.13, Andrea, GUNINANRUNIN, Sheb
(4) Compact Death Ray: Olith McHuman , 10ebbor10, Stabby, RAM
(1) Archer pattern k: NAV
(2) Design doctrine: Slat armour: NAV, Taricus
(2) Design doctrine: Tactical rails: NAV, Taricus
(1) Design doctrine: WING FENCES! : Azzuro

(7) Name the northern island "Tereshkova": Khan Boyzitbig, evictedSaint, NAV, Piratejoe, Taricus, Azzuro, 10ebbor10

(1) Convert remaining SPATs into civilian farming tractors and bulldozers: NAV

I'm willing to go for the high-risk, high-reward transport.

[Kot]

(5) aT-J04: Azzuro,Piratejoe, Powder Miner, Taricus, Wolfhunter107
(2) UF-AC-40 'Khopesh': Light forger, Funk
(8) UFS-CV-40b 'Sea Lift' Pattern A: evictedSaint, Happerry, Kashyyk, Madman198237, NUKE9.13, Andrea, GUNINANRUNIN, Sheb, Kot
(4) Compact Death Ray: Olith McHuman , 10ebbor10, Stabby, RAM
(1) Archer pattern k: NAV
(2) Design doctrine: Slat armour: NAV, Taricus
(2) Design doctrine: Tactical rails: NAV, Taricus
(1) Design doctrine: WING FENCES! : Azzuro

(8) Name the northern island "Tereshkova": Khan Boyzitbig, evictedSaint, NAV, Piratejoe, Taricus, Azzuro, 10ebbor10, Kot

(1) Convert remaining SPATs into civilian farming tractors and bulldozers: NAV

Might as well.

[inteuniso]

So, a p1000ratte

Or you could develop a faster tank that can avoid fire better and get close enough to take a disabling shot.

As a foreign military advisor, I recommend focusing on development of a Celestial Tiger/Tiger Star doctrine as you seem to be at a major military disadvantage on the oceans & you seem to be holding on land thanks to your previous experiences, having advanced in one & held (at least somewhat) in two out of three theaters.

With that, I suggest you develop your navy this turn with a destroyer that could watch for torpedoes & protect against submarines. If you have a fancy carrier that could shift the war in your favor, you don't want it sunk in your first engagement. Also a smaller ship will be more quickly manufactured & can be deployed to more regions far more quickly than a massive carrier. Although it's a good idea & the sea transport sounds like a good idea as well.

EDIT: formatting, shift not shit

EDIT2: Revision phase, thanks Andrea.

[andrea]

you know we are on revision, right? we might imrpove the DD, but no way we can get a cruiser.

[Azzuro]

What's a Celestial Tiger/Tiger Star doctrine? And we already have a submarine destroyer, which unfortunately gets destroyed more than it destroys other ships.

Anyway, I think votes are pretty clearly in favour of the Sealift. It's not a bad option, helps us shift the TC concerns aside for a while. However, just get ready for swarms of Cheap CAF F-420 BLAZE IT jets to sweep us out of the sky next turn. (Assuming they spent their revision to make it non-[Complex], but on the Discord they might have let it slip that they spent the revision to fix something, so not sure about that).

[Kot]

Knowing them they probably hit like a 6 on the jet and got a fucking MiG-15.

[Powder Miner]

Kot, WE hit a 6 on the jet

[Kot]

We didin't have experience making jet engines. They do, thanks to the tank.

[NUKE9.13]

We didin't have experience making jet engines. They do, thanks to the tank.

Ah, but we had more experience with aerodynamics, thanks to our race car, and more experience with planes in general. Sure, they could probably get a jet engine at Hard, but getting a plane that is as good as the Thunderbird would probably still be VH.
...I mean, hopefully.

[Kot]

Ah, but we had more experience with aerodynamics, thanks to our race car

Wasn't their car better anyway?

[NUKE9.13]

Ah, but we had more experience with aerodynamics, thanks to our race car

Wasn't their car better anyway?

Yeah, but that's because we put our design efforts into a wind tunnel instead of a good car. I forget what tech they gained from their car, but I don't think it was straight aerodynamics.

[Kot]

El Diablo V8'39 Racing Car: Cannala's Grand Prix entry, the Diablo, packs as many state of the art handling features in as possible to manage its V8 turbo diesel. The car incorporates sway bars, a hydraulic power steering system, and inverted wings for downforce- the wings are 10-inch sections from the base of actual Falcon wings, bolted to the side of the body. Furthering the aircraft appearance is a curved glass canopy over the driver. It's a rear engine, so the driver's canopy in front gives the whole car a teardrop shape. The motor is a curious choice, there is a two-stage turbo system which provides much earlier boost than a normal turbo but the choice of a diesel engine still means the car doesn't exactly jump off the line, despite being quite powerful. The oil radiator is in the front of the car, connected by long uses, and pumping the large amount of oil involved uses up some power. The car also features run-flat tires with a cork core, which are useful per se but aren't really a logical feature for a race car. Aside from its front engine configuration and wings, it's shaped like a conventional race car, long and narrow with narrow open wheels.

UFC-RC-1939 'Glorious': The Forenian race car entry is built around the large, powerful HF-32 engine, a turbocharged V10. As an aircraft engine, it is simply huge for a car. Its weight and the fact that it's tuned to run close to maximum RPM all the time, as well as the choice of turbo for forced induction, mean that it is slow off the line despite giving lots of power when the car is up to speed. The car is built from aluminum, and the body is an unusual shape. Observation in a wind tunnel determined that the tops of the wheels were a source of a large amount of drag, so they are covered in cowls. The front of most cars is nearly flat, but this one comes down to a wedge with a front wing, to hold the front steering wheels down. This wedge shape actually created some lift as more air is moved towards the top, and this top air is moving faster, so a small tail is added sticking up from the rear of the body and "spoil" the air flow there. It has narrow tires like most cars, and sits on the classic Arstotzkan hydro suspension.

The Race:
The checkered flag goes down, and the cars are off! The first cars to take the lead from the starting line are a French and Italian car, both using superchargers. The Forenian car arguable has more power than grip to its rear drive wheels, it smokes it tires for the entire first hundred meters. The Cannalan car gets its boost early and pulls ahead, just behind an ultra-light three wheeled car (with two wheels in the front) from Britain. By the end of the first, long straightaway, The Forenian car is nearly in front and the Cannalan one has fallen behind a bit. Most of the pack slows down for the first corner, a large section of a traffic circle which constitutes a fairly tight turn for the preceding straight.

To the surprise of other drivers, the Forenian and Cannalan cars both pull ahead, trusting their advanced aerodynamics to help them take the corner faster than ever before. The Cannalan car whisks around the corner, rumbling over the cobblestones with relative ease, taking the lead. The Forenian car doesn't do as well- its front engine and front wing put lots of grip on its front wheels, and it dramatically oversteers. The Forenian driver wrestles to car away from the wall, but is left in a cloud of tire smoke having lost of his speed as the pack passes him. The race continues this way- the Forenian car blows ahead on the straights, but its significant and imbalanced weight forces the driver to slow down a lot for corners. The Cannalan car isn't as fast as some of the other ones, but its able to keep a more consistent speed. Eventually the Cannalan car takes the trophy. The various lesser foreign diplomats who succeeded in getting themselves assigned to this race instead of more important work are impressed- the Cannalan driver is reported in the newspapers as "a sailor who won a car race using an airplane". Cannala gains an expense credit.

They got aerodynamics and hydraulic steering (which would be useful for a jet).