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[NUKE9.13]

If we want to remove the [Complex] tag from our jets:

aT-J04: Following several months of actual operational use, feedback was delivered to the al-Tawrbinat company regarding the aT-J03: praise from pilots for the speed, power, and reliable nature, but complaints from those who couldn't fly one due to the scarcity. Engineers were trying desperately to figure out some way to make the engines cheaper to build when they received a surprising report from a factory-floor manager: jet engines are not actually that hard to build. In fact, they are in some ways easier to build than piston engines, requiring less skilled labour and fewer complicated machining tools. Simply by hiring more workers and giving them a brief training course, and making a few small revisions to the manufacturing process, mass production lines could be set up. This would not lower the cost in materials, but a brief calculation of the necessary resources versus the available resources suggested that Forenia's formidable war industry could actually afford to increase jet engine production significantly.
(de-complexify the manufacturing process, since it actually is easier than building piston engines (albeit more expensive due to the materials required), at least according to this)


By the way, ebbor, I was mistaken about maintenance issues being the source of the [Complex] tag;

NUKE9.13 - Today at 7:58 AM
@Sensei , sorry to bother you with a question I have asked before, but is the [Complex] tag of the aT-J03 due to maintenance issues, or manufacturing issues?
Sensei - Today at 7:59 AM
Manufacturing
In as much as it even makes a difference really
NUKE9.13 - Today at 7:59 AM
Cool, thanks.

[Azzuro]

(1) aT-J04: Azzuro

[VoidSlayer]

Note that some of these features are still asking a lot, especially in the largest ship you've ever laid down. I really should add a difficulty between Very Hard and Impossible.

Very Hard But No You Do Not Get All The Things seems like a good middle ground between Very Hard and Impossible.

VHBNYDNGA difficulty.

Just take out the stuff that is clearly overstretching it, or make those parts so poor it needs a revision or new design to be working.  Which is basically what you did I guess?

[Light forger]

UFS-AC-40 'Khopesh'
A heavy duty retooling our our venerable AC-18 autocannon the khopesh is a 45mm long recoil autocannon. Slightly on the heavy side due to it's action the khopesh offers massive firepower for surprisingly little recoil(for a 45mm autocannon at any rate). It can be mounted on all of our ships for anti-pt boat duty, the salamander and, most importantly an under belly gun pod for the Haast. It's fitted with a full assortment of rounds the most important of which being it's HEAT rounds which can punch through the armor of an armadillo head on or the armor of a bull from the rear or top. While a solid gun in it's own right the khopesh can readily scaled down for the creation for new autocannons.

[andrea]

Note: we captured jungle during last report. We need to hold the jungle for a full turn before we get the chance to exploit resources, it is not immediate. So, even if we design cargo we will not get ore in the next combat report, but only in the combat after that. May as well focus this turn on holding and make cargo next turn.

The autocannon is VERY tempting. it is going to murder their tanks, if we hold air. Which we might or might not, developing a jet will be easier for them thanks to turboshaft experience.  On the other hand, I feel they may want to complete their tank with composite armor, which may or may not make the AC more critical or useless. On the other hand, it might make it too expensive to deploy.

for now, I will vote for jet. May switch to cannon later.

(2) aT-J04: Azzuro, Andrea
(1) UFS-AC-40 'Khopesh': Light forger

[Olith McHuman]

The jungle is still a bit too much of a wildcard for my tastes when it comes to a transport. Especially since it will be winter.

RDN-40 "Compact Death Ray"
The development of the cavity magnetron allows the construction of a much more compact radar system that uses the centimeter band. The higher frequency permits the use of much smaller antenna elements (the old radars use a wavelength of about 3-10 feet if we're being historically accurate (or 40 feet for the very first ones), this uses the S band somewhere in 2-4 GHz, so wavelength of .25 to .5 feet). The magnetron is the key to this radar's success - it allows a transmitter to be built that can overcome the additional atmospheric attenuation of the higher frequency. Prior experience with radar and the Tiger's Roar is used to simplify the electronics, hopefully making them suitable for mass production. Development of a death ray than can destroy enemy targets with electromagntic forces rather than glorious Forenian forces are ongoing, but small scale tests are reported to be delicious.

[evictedSaint]

Revision: UFS-CV-40b 'Sea Lift' Pattern A

Based heavily off the Zheleznogorod, the Sea Lift is little more than a partially-completed carrier.  With basic engines and crew quarters, the majority of this ship is dominated by storage capacity allowing at least 3 TC.  A crane is fixed to the deck to allow cargo to be easily onloaded and offloaded.  A single Bumblebee flak cannon is mounted to the bow, and two AC18's flank the command tower for defense.

The Sea Lift performs three main functions; transporting raw resources for processing, carrying troops and equipment to the front lines, and acting as a hospital ship to move the wounded back to Forenia for treatment (this variant is unarmed and painted with a large red "+" to dissuade attackers).

[Olith McHuman]

(2) aT-J04: Azzuro, Andrea
(1) UFS-AC-40 'Khopesh': Light forger
(1) Compact Death Ray: Olith McHuman

[evictedSaint]

(2) aT-J04: Azzuro, Andrea
(1) UF-AC-40 'Khopesh': Light forger
(1) UFS-CV-40b 'Sea Lift' Pattern A: evictedSaint
(1) Compact Death Ray: Olith McHuman

Doesn't it take a turn for TC vehicles to come into affect, too?  The right moment to design it would be now.

[Strongpoint]

UFS-AC-40 'Khopesh'
A heavy duty retooling our our venerable AC-18 autocannon the khopesh is a 45mm long recoil autocannon. Slightly on the heavy side due to it's action the khopesh offers massive firepower for surprisingly little recoil(for a 45mm autocannon at any rate). It can be mounted on all of our ships for anti-pt boat duty, the salamander and, most importantly an under belly gun pod for the Haast. It's fitted with a full assortment of rounds the most important of which being it's HEAT rounds which can punch through the armor of an armadillo head on or the armor of a bull from the rear or top. While a solid gun in it's own right the khopesh can readily scaled down for the creation for new autocannons.

How is this a revision? It is absolutely new auto-cannon.

[andrea]

@Evictedsaint hm. good thinking. Worth checking. Somebody ask sensei?

edit: evictedsaint, you were right. If we want TC to be effective the turn after next, we need to revise it now.
Also, the Zhelezgorod seems pretty big... maybe change the text to say AT LEAST 3 TC? 3 is the goal we shoot for, but I like to keep room open for more.

[VoidSlayer]

Honestly, why don't we just try to improve the jet engine in revisions until it stops being complex, that way once it is no longer complex it is also super good even if it takes a few more revisions.

[Olith McHuman]

@Evictedsaint hm. good thinking. Worth checking. Somebody ask sensei?

edit: evictedsaint, you were right. If we want TC to be effective the turn after next, we need to revise it now.
Also, the Zhelezgorod seems pretty big... maybe change the text to say AT LEAST 3 TC? 3 is the goal we shoot for, but I like to keep room open for more.

They have a TC based on a destroyer? that has 3 TC. Most WW2 carriers I can find have 1.5 to 3 times more displacement than a destroyer at the very least. Plus there are the flight decks too.

[10ebbor10]

Kraken Coastal Defense Ship: [L] [Expensive] Release the Kraken! A heavily armored ironclad, with 4x2 Nightwind turrets, and 4 Can Opener side turrets, plus space on deck. Two steam turbines and other critical components are in a heavily armored citadel, featuring nigh on a foot of nickel steel armor. The rest of the ship is lightly armored. Relatively fast, but slow to turn. Steel frame, wooden decks, furniture, and con tower. [2 Wood, 4 Ore, 2 Oil]

Kraken-C: [L] With the citadel armor mostly removed, and space used for housing soldiers and Nightwind ammunition as well as driving the turrets freed up, the Kraken can hold a significant amount of cargo. The Kraken-C grants 3 Transport Capacity.

[andrea]

yes, I don't think we are getting 5 TC on that. 4 maaaay be possible, but not particularly useful. Still, saying 3+ doesn't really harm us in any way compared to syaing 3.

Our carrier should be same size or perhaps slightly bigger than their "bettleship", but a carrier should be more naturally suited to act as a cargo ( big fuel stores, big emtpy spaces, used to carry bulky heavy things (planes))