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Glorious Arstotzka

17 (16%)

Glorious Moskurg

13 (12.3%)

Ingloriously Didn't Play

76 (71.7%)

Total Members Voted: 106

[evictedSaint]

Let's wait until the combat phase.  Pretty much any agreement we come to now will be thrown out the window the second Sensei writes "and Cannala unveiled their new XYZ, which completely blew up every Forenia tank because they haven't researched Reactive Armor or some bullshit yet" and we realize we need to focus elsewhere.

[NUKE9.13]

The Independent Forenian
For the people, by the people.
Unification Party no longer in control!
Whilst still the largest party, the Unification Party for the first time in our country's history no longer holds the majority of seats in parliament. The ANP has increased to 20 seats, whilst the right-wing NFPP and extreme-centre Moderate Party have 22 seats each. The Moskurg Nationalists hold 12 seats, PAROI 8, with two seats each for the SPF, FSDAO, and Forenian National-Socialist party.
This leaves the UP with only 30 seats in our 120-seat parliament. At present, a coalition of the UP, NFPP, and MP remain in control, but clearly the days of our current Prime Minister are numbered. The Independent would like to join the chorus of voices calling for elections to choose a new PM, and a new direction for our country!
Continued on pages 5-7.

Forenian culture expands, gains international acclaim.
Rado Mazur. Battle of the Embassy. Wands Race. These are but a handful of the dozens of high-quality artistic productions emerging from Forenia, even in these times of war. Showing that Forenians are possessed of equal amounts of barely-restrained violence and creativity, this clearly demonstrates our superiority over the Cannalans, whose artistic output is all-but non-existent. Needless to say, were they not restrained by government censorship, the works of these geniuses would rival the best in the world, and young stars would be flocking to Follywood, rather than the USA's knockoff.
Continued on page 8.

Shoddy production costs Forenian lives. Who is to blame?
Disturbing reports from the front lines suggest that recent 'improvements' to Sorraia manufacturing introduced by the UFG have in fact resulted in catastrophic failures at critical junctures. Yellowjacket pilots have lost their lives unable to return fire, tanks have been overwhelmed by Cannalan soldiers, emplacements abandoned by terrified soldiers. The government denies responsibility, claiming the changes in production to be the fault of foreign saboteurs, and have called on all citizens to be on the lookout for foreigners loitering near critical industrial facilities. This is typical deflection, a refusal to accept responsibility by corrupt politicians whose concern for 'budgets' has cost the lives of thousands of brave Forenians.
Continued on page 4.

Military funding dedicated to frivolous pursuits.
Leaks from some top engineers suggest that the government is diverting resources to the development of a civilian racing vehicle, to be shown off in Switzerland later this year. Our sources within the military reacted with outrage to the news, citing the dire circumstances on all fronts, and angrily demanded that the efforts be directed towards new equipment to help us retake the southern island, or make progress in the north. The government has refused to comment, but one engineer was willing to share the following with us:
"Look, a race car is basically like a plane on wheels, right? Think of this as a prototype for a new fighter. Plus, it goes really really fast, so that's pretty cool."
Continued on page 5.

Thoughts? Publish the international edition Y/N?

Let's wait until the combat phase.  Pretty much any agreement we come to now will be thrown out the window the second Sensei writes "and Cannala unveiled their new XYZ, which completely blew up every Forenia tank because they haven't researched Reactive Armor or some bullshit yet" and we realize we need to focus elsewhere.

They were whining (you may notice a theme) in the Discord that they rolled poorly this turn, suggesting that they may not roll out a new XYZ at all.


Incidentally, I was thinking of asking Sensei if we can have some influence on the elections. I know that that isn't the point of the game, but it would be some nice fluff, and could lead to some interesting propaganda being created in favour of the various political parties.

[evictedSaint]

I would like to remind everyone that the Glorious is sponsered by the Put A Rocket On It! party, and if the Glorious does well we can expect a huge boost in membership.

[piratejoe]

I wonder if I should make/join a party or two....hmmm....things to think about.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I wonder if I should make/join a party or two....hmmm....things to think about.

You can take over the Socialist Party of Forenia if you wish.  I'm not doing anything with it.

[Azzuro]

I wonder if I should make/join a party or two....hmmm....things to think about.

You can take over the Socialist Party of Forenia if you wish.  I'm not doing anything with it.

I would like to take over the Socialist Party and campaign to join the Comintern eventually. But I'm not sure how to do that. Post propaganda in the Embassy thread?

[evictedSaint]

Pretty much. Just say "I'm starting a party".

I suspect the number of seats is proportional to how loud you are in the embassy.

[NAV]

Not sure if it's the right time to suggest this, but we should replace our Cascade SMGs with AS-MC16As. It's basically the same thing, but upgraded to be cheaper, have better handling, and a larger magazine. We're missing out on a successful revision by using the Cascade instead.

-Cascade Sub-Machine Gun: This is a sub-machine gun, firing the .35 cal short pistol round. It uses a new, closed-bolt blowback system. This system is reliable and keeps dirt out of the gun. The bolt system takes up about six inches, all of which is past the trigger, then a magazine, a 30 round drum, inserts into the receiver from the left. The barrel after the receiver is short, about 8 inches, and has a slotted metal hand guard. The stock is wooden, ugly, and stops at the receiver, where brass is ejected from the bottom of the gun. The short barrel gives poor accuracy, especially when hot, and the .35 cal short bullets have much less range than a rifle or machine gun. The system fires about 400 rounds per minute. Its complexity makes it Expensive.

-AS-MC16: This is a sub-machine gun, firing the 9mm pistol round. It uses a new, closed-bolt blowback system perfected from the AS-F14. This system is reliable and keeps dirt out of the gun. The bolt system takes up about fifteen centimeters, all of which is past the trigger, then a magazine, a 30 round drum, inserts into the receiver from the left. The barrel after the receiver is short, about twenty centimeters, and has a slotted metal hand guard. The stock is wooden and stops at the receiver, where brass is ejected from the bottom of the gun. The short barrel gives poor accuracy, especially when hot, and the 9mm bullets have much less range than a rifle or machine gun. The system fires about 400 rounds per minute. Its complexity makes it Expensive.
-AS-MC16A: A stands for Andres! The action is reworked for cheaper manufacturing, but works as well as the original. The stock is redesigned entirely for a pistol grip and foregrip, and made of lightweight aluminium, the butt is an open frame. The weapon handles considerably better with this new arrangement. Hollow point ammo is not successfully developed during this revision phase, but your engineers do design a new magazine. This is a 54-round magazine which consists of two drums feeding together into one magazine insert. It gets in the way of the shooter's view a bit, but MC16's are often fired from the hip anyway. Oh yeah, and it looks like a pair of, well, you know. Soldiers have some creative nicknames for the gun already. Costs 2 ore.

[Kot]

The Cascade has been choosen for us by Sensei, for some reason. Probably balance, I think.

[NUKE9.13]

Not sure if it's the right time to suggest this, but we should replace our Cascade SMGs with AS-MC16As. It's basically the same thing, but upgraded to be cheaper, have better handling, and a larger magazine. We're missing out on a successful revision by using the Cascade instead.

Yeah. That was a mistake. We misread something, and thought that the Cascade was the upgraded one. I would be up for replacing the Cascade with the MC16A, if still an option.

I wonder if I should make/join a party or two....hmmm....things to think about.

You can take over the Socialist Party of Forenia if you wish.  I'm not doing anything with it.

I would like to take over the Socialist Party and campaign to join the Comintern eventually. But I'm not sure how to do that. Post propaganda in the Embassy thread?

I think that so long as you have permission from the party's founder, you can become a member of a party, and produce propaganda on it's behalf.

If you want to boost the SPF, maybe you could write a thing about them cooperating with the communists on Mutriqa (the small desert island to the east of Forenia). It is important that we lay the groundwork required for us to join any side of the war, so you'd be doing important work by showing the SPF gaining popularity whilst also moving towards communism.

[piratejoe]

I wasn't thinking of Joining the SPF at all, but more just a kinda fluffy way of saying 'hey, I'm part of this party' I have a few ideas right now but I'll flesh out one to a full party....eventually.

[RAM]

Tundra Island (6): Powder Miner, Lightforger, GUNINANRUNIN, Andrea, NUKE9.13, Azzuro
Northern Jungle (6): Powder Miner, Lightforger, GUNINANRUNIN, Andrea, NUKE9.13, Azzuro
Send the radar out (5): Powder Miner, Lightforger, GUNINANRUNIN, NUKE9.13, Azzuro

Was there even an option to not deploy our radars? Both sides know the others' design from the very starting paragraphs of the turn, so I don't see what not deploying something would do for us.

It can actually be a very strong move to hold back for a bit. A large part of this game is based upon countering your opponent. If you do ntot know what to counter, while your opponent does, then they can drop three very different things that counter what you have been putting out while you have to deal with them all at once and your recent acions have been attuned to old situations. On the other hand, you can just give them time to devlop a super-weapon without being presured...

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The option to not deploy was removed because it had no votes. I personally feel that your post demonstrates that this is a dubious practice. The potential confusion over not seeing a propsal you were looking for, the impossibility of submitting a design that you do not favour but feel may be supported by others, the confusion over seeing a derivitive proposal when the original has been removed, and the paralysis of a voter who would like to vote for something else but feels that their proposal could still win if it is still on the list, and cannot change their vote later because they expect that they will have been unable to access the forum for an extended duration so "changing it later" is not an option. I really fail to see how a dozen more proposals all with little zeroes next to them would inhibit people from voting, or from tracking the number of votes, but I imagine that I am missing something obvious there...

I would also like to propose that everyone get one "this is what I want" full vote worth 1 whole voting-point and two "I like this too" half-votes worth .5 voting-points. It would help to illustrate what has general support and inhibit the effect of two similar ideas each getting half of the votes from the people who like both of them and one different idea winning because it is getting all of the votes of the minority who only like one. Like:
2 Air-burst artillery-piece: Jack, Jill
2 Air-burst grenade-launcher: Thelma, Loise
3 Torpedo boat: Larry, Moe, Curly
Four people want airburst, three people want torpedo, torpedo wins with less popular support than either of the other propsals had because the votes are too constrained to reflect the will of the people...

I am going to attempt to limit myself to a single response post after this because this issue can turn toxic.

[andrea]

Removing proposals without votes shouldn't be done, i agree. We are many here and discussion moves fast. The vote box is an easy reference for the latecomers, who may find one of the voteless proposals interesting.

Personally, i also support the secondary (0.5) vote.

[evictedSaint]

No, absolutely no vote splitting.  I know you guys do it in wands race, but it's messy and confusing.  We have enough people here already, and people throwing around half-votes will get confusing real quick. 

1 vote per person.  Leave up zero-vote ideas.  Let people vote for things they know wont win.

[Parsely]

@RAM: Except Sensei can read into that vote and see that people are still divided. Your example never actually happened; all the votes in this campaign have passed by a pretty wide majority. The voters need to actually work together and figure out a compromise if they don't want their votes to go to waste.

No to vote-splitting.