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Total Members Voted: 106

[Kashyyk]

UF-39-APC "Croc"
Following the basic frame of a T-2 Breaker, this eight-wheeled all terrain vehicle is designed to carry a squad of infantry, plus support gear (tiger armour & squad weapons for example). It is fitted with a turreted AC-18 Autocannon and coaxial Sorraia. The armour is Medium all round and it is specifically designed to be as sloped as possible for maximum deflection, additionally, it uses one unit of Manganese alloy to improve armour further. It has a rear access ramp, as well as two side doors, all rubber sealed. It is designed to achieve 40mph on smooth ground, 20mph on rough, can fjord small waterways and swamps due to its high ground clearance, wide wheel base and amphibious design.

[Khan Boyzitbig]

I like the idea of the croc. Gives us something for naval invasion too.

[piratejoe]

Crok isn't a bad idea, but at the moment I'm leaning ever so slightly more for the radar...

[Madman198237]

I hope you guys are watching Discord. We're discussing alternatives there, at a fast pace.

[Mulisa]

UF-39-LT "Barsuk"

Weighting in at 10 tonnes, the Barsuk is a light tank designed to be airdropped from UFAF-MTA-38. It boasts a heavily angled 20 mm thick frontal armor plate, 15 mm thick sides and a 5 mm thick rear.
The turret front is 35 mm thich, sides 15 mm and rear 10 mm. On the turret Barsuk mounts a Sorraria machine gun and a 50 mm 60 calibre long cannon. The tank weighs in at just about ten tonnes. The tank has a 250 horsepower 8-cylinder engine capable of bringing the tank up to 60 km/h.

[Kashyyk]

I don't have a reliable enough internet connection for that, so I'm just gonna trust the reasons for whatever decision that gets made there get repeated here.

[andrea]

UF-CAS-39 "Boar"This is an aircraft built for supporting ground operations. It is built to allow for low stall speed and low speed manoeuvering at said speed, allowing it to engage ground targets with ease. Its wide wings allow it to have many hardpoints on which different payloads can be mounted such as small bombs, drop tanks or machineguns/autocannons. Its primary weapon however is a center mounted brand new 30 mm autocannon that can fire armor piercing/HEAT ammunition.
Lessons learned from the Recklesser effort are implemented to increase its resistance to enemy fire. The vital systems of the aircraft, such as the area around the pilot, are reinforced with light armor.
Its 2 engines are mounted above the wings rather than inline, to be better protected from machinegun fire.

Here is a draft for a close air support craft, that would help dealing with their armor in an indirect way. Not sure if it will work, but cannon aside it is mostly existing tech.

UF-39-LT "Barsuk"

Weighting in at 10 tonnes, the Barsuk is a light tank designed to be airdropped from UFAF-MTA-38. It boasts a heavily angled 20 mm thick frontal armor plate, 15 mm thick sides and a 5 mm thick rear.
The turret front is 35 mm thich, sides 15 mm and rear 10 mm. On the turret Barsuk mounts a Sorraria machine gun and a 50 mm 60 calibre long cannon. The tank weighs in at just about ten tonnes. The tank has a 250 horsepower 8-cylinder engine capable of bringing the tank up to 60 km/h.

The tank may be designed as air droppable, but it weight 10 tons and our aircraft can carry 4

[Mulisa]

UF-CAS-39 "Boar"This is an aircraft built for supporting ground operations. It is built to allow for low stall speed and low speed manoeuvering at said speed, allowing it to engage ground targets with ease. Its wide wings allow it to have many hardpoints on which different payloads can be mounted such as small bombs, drop tanks or machineguns/autocannons. Its primary weapon however is a center mounted brand new 30 mm autocannon that can fire armor piercing/HEAT ammunition.
Lessons learned from the Recklesser effort are implemented to increase its resistance to enemy fire. The vital systems of the aircraft, such as the area around the pilot, are reinforced with light armor.
Its 2 engines are mounted above the wings rather than inline, to be better protected from machinegun fire.

Here is a draft for a close air support craft, that would help dealing with their armor in an indirect way. Not sure if it will work, but cannon aside it is mostly existing tech.

UF-39-LT "Barsuk"

Weighting in at 10 tonnes, the Barsuk is a light tank designed to be airdropped from UFAF-MTA-38. It boasts a heavily angled 20 mm thick frontal armor plate, 15 mm thick sides and a 5 mm thick rear.
The turret front is 35 mm thich, sides 15 mm and rear 10 mm. On the turret Barsuk mounts a Sorraria machine gun and a 50 mm 60 calibre long cannon. The tank weighs in at just about ten tonnes. The tank has a 250 horsepower 8-cylinder engine capable of bringing the tank up to 60 km/h.

The tank may be designed as air droppable, but it weight 10 tons and our aircraft can carry 4

Oh, shit. You're right. Well there goes that idea. a 4 ton tank is simply a no-go.

[Strongpoint]

Hm, maybe go early helicopter? It is a way to kill tanks and works great on aircraft carriers. The problem of shitty early model stays but unlike radar it gives insight in other fields, too.

I still want jet powered or rocked assisted race car and see no reason to not try

[Taricus]

Helicopters are too complex at this stage.

[piratejoe]

Forgot to add this

RADAR (w/ Research Credit): (2) GUNINANRUNIN Piratejoe

[andrea]

Rocket assisted race car would work, but it gives us no meaningful experience. We have had such vehicles for a long time.

From 1934 battle report:
"In those very streets of Moskurg's capitol now, Arstotzkan secret agent Fried Potato jumps from a window out of Taricus' office in the Engineering Bureau, and lands in the dusty street. Alarms are blaring from the building as he runs into an alley and pulls bags off a pile of trash, revealing the place he concealed his trusty AS-M17 motorcycle. It is no ordinary M17, but his own custom turbo-charged bike. He roars out into the street, there are bursts of automatic gunfire from behind him, Moskurg constables on horses. He leaves them in the dust, but is followed by a blue police Tiger truck through the streets. It smashes through fruit stands and small obstacles that line the streets, but is still gaining. Fried Potato has one more trick though- a pair of rocket motors tied to the side of the bike. He ignites them with a switch, and breaks records though the streets, into a field, and ramps off a broken box across a small canal. "


That aside, since spy fights don't really count.... what do you hope to get from rocket assisted car? I can see jet engines, but rockets are a tech we have already developed.

[evictedSaint]

Wow.  A lot of shade thrown from Sensei this turn. : (

I throw my vote in with RADAR w/research credit.  If other people are against it, I propose we develop a powerfun new engine to give our aircraft a better power-to-weight ratio.  An amphibious APC can wait 4 more turns, as our paratroopers are doing just fine.

[Mulisa]

UF-39-LT "Barsuk"

Weighting in at 10 tonnes, the Barsuk is a light tank designed to be airdropped from UFAF-MTA-38. It boasts a heavily angled 20 mm thick frontal armor plate, 15 mm thick sides and a 5 mm thick rear.
The turret front is 35 mm thich, sides 15 mm and rear 10 mm. On the turret Barsuk mounts a Sorraria machine gun and a 50 mm 60 calibre long cannon. The tank weighs in at just about ten tonnes. The tank has a 250 horsepower 8-cylinder engine capable of bringing the tank up to 60 km/h.

Okay re-designing the Barsuk;

UF-39-LT "Barsuk"

Built from aluminium the Barsuk makes extensive use of heavy angling to get any meaningful protection against small arms fire out of it's extremely thin armor plates, that are 15 mm frontally, 8 mm at the sides and 3 mm at the rear, same holds for the turret. The tank is armed with either an AS-AC18 autocannon or a short barreled, low velocity 75 mm infantry support weapon capable of firing HEAT shells against enemy armor. The autocannon variant weighs in at 3.5 tons, the cannon variant at 4 tons.

[piratejoe]

You are better off calling that and making that a tankette.