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Total Members Voted: 106

[helmacon]

'Reckless Effect' Transport Aircraft (9): Helmacon, Taricus, Khan Boyzitbig, Stabby, GUNINANRUNIN, evictedSaint, Powder Miner, Andrea, Happerry, Lightforger
UFAF-CT-38 "Albatross" Cargo Transport (1): Azzuro

Bandwagoning like a pro.

[evictedSaint]

Well, the 14 Cylinder Twin Wasp was the one of the most common engines, which is why I want to know if it matters...but the goal is to get a working result with one design, so we'll go with our existing V12 engines to prevent us from having to build an entirely new engine. 

We can design a new engine later and retrofit our aircraft.

[Kot]

The floatplanes are too slow! The floats are too heavy! They generate too much drag!
Yeah, suck my ass.

[Taricus]

Yeaaaah, that's an unarmed civilian craft.

[Kot]

So were the planes that beat it... well, except He 100, but it was unarmed when it made the speed record, and He 100 is a special snowflake in itself.
In any case, it doesn't have to make speed records, but if a floatplane was able to make a speed record that could still be considered fast speed for a proppeler plane, then yeah.
Suck my ass, floats are great.

[evictedSaint]

Cannala has a float plane. 

Dragonfly Floatplane Fighter: [L] [Expensive] The Dragonfly is a fighter plane, optimized for interception. It is a full metal, low-wing monoplane with an aluminum frame. The cockpit is fully enclosed over a tubular body, and the single unusual feature is that it is built with pontoons, enabling it to land on water. It is powered by a large 11-cylinder carbureted radial engine in the nose. It is armed with two air-cooled 3/4 inch Can Shredder variants, one in each wing. The plane is light, maneuverable and has decent climbing power. The use of pontoons adds weight and (more importantly) drag, which reduces top speed and energy retention. It can carry half a ton of bombs/torpedoes on two mounts, but flies like an over-ambitious chicken when doing so. As a small plane with a heavy engine, it handles well but has a hig minimum speed. [5 Ore (1 Al) 3 Oil]

[Kot]

Cannala has a float plane. 

Dragonfly Floatplane Fighter: [L] [Expensive] The Dragonfly is a fighter plane, optimized for interception. It is a full metal, low-wing monoplane with an aluminum frame. The cockpit is fully enclosed over a tubular body, and the single unusual feature is that it is built with pontoons, enabling it to land on water. It is powered by a large 11-cylinder carbureted radial engine in the nose. It is armed with two air-cooled 3/4 inch Can Shredder variants, one in each wing. The plane is light, maneuverable and has decent climbing power.

Great plane.

The use of pontoons adds weight and (more importantly) drag, which reduces top speed and energy retention.

>Retractable floats

[Sensei]

For future reference, this is a V-engine:


And this is a radial engine:


Know the difference!

Military Transport Aircraft UFAF-MTA-38 'Reckless Effect' Pattern A
Description: Dedicated hauler aircraft.  Large internal spacing to allow for cargo, be it ore shipments, oil drums, paratroopers, or a very skinny light tank.  Rear drops down into a ramp beneath the tail to allow cargo to be wheeled in and out of the plane.  Ramp can be opened in flight to drop paratroopers, or cargo if an emergency occurs and the pilot needs to drop weight.  Four V12 radial engines and a large wingspan give the aircraft enough lift to carry its cargo where it needs to.  Internals are sparsely furnished to cut weight where possible.  Large rudder and elevator gives it a relatively stable flight. Wings are shoulder-mounted to give the engines ground clearance and further increase stability.
    Dimensions: 25 meters long, 35 meter wingspan.
    Cargo Hold: 12 meters long by 2.5x2.5 meter cross-section.
    Max Load: 8,000 kg  (2 TC)
    Engines: 4 V12 Radial wing-mounted engines.
    Armament: None.
    Armour: None.
    Other stuff: Both Encryption and Decryption radios for communication.

Easy: 1
UFAF-MTA-38 'Reckless Effect': [Expensive] The MT stands for Military Transport Aircraft, but nobody is sure what 'Reckless Effect' is supposed to mean other than sounding cool. This is a large cargo aircraft with four V12 engines, normally aspirated with an eye towards fuel efficiency. It has a broad wingspan with a high wing, ample cargo space, and adequate power to take off from a long runway with a four ton load, just don't expect much in the way of evasive maneuvers. Befitting its role as a dedicated cargo craft, the body terminates is a large cargo door/ramp at the rear. The frame is largely aluminium for weight. Even an L-1 Tiger truck or AS-MV-21-AL just barely fit within the size and weight limits! The door can also be opened in flight for paratroopers, or for an emergency cargo jettison... which is where things go wrong. Some nutter thought a system which automatically opens the door and releases all the cargo floor hooks using loaded springs at the same time was a necessary feature, and unfortunately this system is liable to off during takeoff, landing, and flying through turbulence. It will provide 1 Transport Capacity if you stop it dropping things out the back for no good reason. [4 Ore (1 Al), 4 Oil]

WTF:
Kot's Insane Floatplane: Kot was last seen flying east in a rocket-powered plane with floats on the bottom, top, and sides, supposedly turning a water collision at any angle into a successful landing. He was last seen shouting, "THEY'RE RETRACTABLE!" as he disappeared into the blue. His current whereabouts are unknown.

[Madman198237]

Guess we know what's getting revised, I guess. Of all the times to get a crappy roll, now was NOT the time.

[evictedSaint]

Yes, such a crappy roll on such an easy design...almost as if it were....sabotaged.  And coincidentally at the same moment Kot sails off in his insane retractable floatplane.  So many coincidences.

I wonder if we could fix it at the same time we revise a Pattern B 'Devastating Effect'?


And yeah, it took me a minute to realize that you can't do radial V engines, or even numbered radial cylinders.  I guess I was kinda on autopilot.  Derp. >_>


On the bright side, at least it was a 1 on an Easy design, and not a Hard or Very Hard design.  Minimal ill effects, right?

[Light forger]

Plan Corrective Measures:
- Execute whoever added to doors for blatant sabotage.
- Order the rest of the design team to fix the doors.
- Tell the design team to also add in an extra transport point to the design.
- Or they get flogged.

Plan Corrective Measures: (1) Lightforger

[Kot]

HEIL CANALLA
Apart from floats or RATO... cargo pods? Although at this point just fixing it would be better.

[evictedSaint]

I had suspected we would end up needing both the revision and design to make a working non-combat plane, but seeing it happen is still disappointing.  Fixing a spring lock seems rather trivial for an entire revision...

[Strongpoint]

UFAF-MTA-38(B) 'Recklesser Effect'
UFAF-MTA-38(B) is largely identical to UFAF-MTA-38 but with additional effort spent to improve reliability. Not only it aims to fix the door, engineers are tasked to make sure that aircraft as reliable as possible. Its systems are tested in various environmental  conditions and triple checked for any flaws making necessary upgrades when neccesary. New solutions should be applied to other Florenian aircrafts when it is easy to do.

Tl;Dr: Fix the door and improve general reliability of the plane. Try to improve reliability of other aircrafts while we are here


I think trying to get second TC is overly ambitious, we need to either increase size or speed and that is quite unrealistic.

[Khan Boyzitbig]

Plan Corrective Measures:
- Execute whoever added to doors for blatant sabotage.
- Order the rest of the design team to fix the doors.
- Tell the design team to also add in an extra transport point to the design.
- Or they get flogged.

Plan Corrective Measures: (2) Lightforger, Khan Boyzitbig

I propose we tie whoever was responsible to the springs and fly at max altitude before opening the cargobay door and activating the release mechanism. That'll teach 'em.