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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 602451 times)

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #240 on: May 02, 2017, 02:19:21 pm »

Carriers which are carrying better planes & RADAR to help guide the planes to their target is a much better use of a design than a seaplane.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #241 on: May 02, 2017, 02:34:34 pm »

As a general rule of thumb, regular aircraft out-perform seaplanes in nearly every field except for "landing in the ocean"

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #242 on: May 02, 2017, 02:42:39 pm »

As a general rule of thumb, regular aircraft out-perform seaplanes in nearly every field except for "landing in the ocean"
There's always the zeppelin option...  :P

Jokes aside, what would you guys think of sea mines?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #243 on: May 02, 2017, 02:44:50 pm »

Carriers which are carrying better planes & RADAR to help guide the planes to their target is a much better use of a design than a seaplane.
Plane mounted radars! And carriers based planes don't have to be better, not to mention that carriers themselves need to be good to be actually useful, and that's not a given considering that we have no experience...

As a general rule of thumb, regular aircraft out-perform seaplanes in nearly every field except for "landing in the ocean"
They didin't have retractable floats, which as I said either created a lot of drag or limited the planes in other ways.
Add retractable floats and you have good plane. And landing in ocean is great advantage.

Jokes aside, what would you guys think of sea mines?
Do not mention that, because I had that idea in Discord too, so they will scream at you. :/
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #244 on: May 02, 2017, 02:46:39 pm »

Jokes aside, what would you guys think of sea mines?
Do not mention that, because I had that idea in Discord too, so they will scream at you. :/
Why? We're the inferior party at sea. Dirty tactics like mines will be essential for keeping our coasts clear.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #245 on: May 02, 2017, 02:47:27 pm »

Wait a minute you mentioned mines? Because I don't recall those being mentioned.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #246 on: May 02, 2017, 02:48:21 pm »

Long time ago, dropping naval mines. It was somewhere around the things we could use planes, autogyros, helicopters and our shitty ships for.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #247 on: May 02, 2017, 02:48:50 pm »

Jokes aside, what would you guys think of sea mines?
Do not mention that, because I had that idea in Discord too, so they will scream at you. :/
Why? We're the inferior party at sea. Dirty tactics like mines will be essential for keeping our coasts clear.
There's nothing wrong with mines. They have them. No reason we shouldn't.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #248 on: May 02, 2017, 02:50:11 pm »

Their Corsair destroyer has the ability to drop "seahorse mines" which float on the surface and detonate on contact. No guarantee they'll use the Corsair, but they do have the technology. We'll probably want to get it too at some point.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #249 on: May 02, 2017, 02:52:04 pm »

There's nothing wrong with mines. They have them. No reason we shouldn't.
But Nuke, it was me who suggested it in Discord! That means it's horrible idea, obviously.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #250 on: May 02, 2017, 02:55:21 pm »

Carriers which are carrying better planes & RADAR to help guide the planes to their target is a much better use of a design than a seaplane.
Plane mounted radars! And carriers based planes don't have to be better, not to mention that carriers themselves need to be good to be actually useful, and that's not a given considering that we have no experience...

Prototypes for that weren't tested until late '39 to '40 at the earliest, years after the development of the basic radar we don't even have yet, so it is going to be far harder to make that rather than carrier mounted radar.  Besides, the plane mounted versions have to be smaller, and therefore have a far lower range, so Carrier-based will still be superior.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #251 on: May 02, 2017, 03:00:36 pm »

Okay, seriously now.
I suppose we still want aircraft carriers in a way, because something is going to need to supply our seaplanes. What we could do is:
a) Have regular carriers that carry fighters and other agile planes, while the torpedo planes and bombers and such are seaplanes, making us not have to sacrifice what little agility it costs for fighters, and allowing us to have a lot of fighters in air while not losing attack ability, and allowing us to have easy long range bombing and convoy hunting without fighter escort.
b) Have carrier "tugs" that just carry a lot of fuel and ammo (and radar!) and have repair decks while the planes actual just land around them, this way we could have an awful lot of planes and no limitation on how many of them launch at once.
c) Something else.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #252 on: May 02, 2017, 03:04:41 pm »

We're not expecting torpedo bombers to be agile, I mean they are bombers. And how about we just don't bother with seaplanes since we do have the landmasses close enough to get decent coverage from scout planes/bombers as well.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #253 on: May 02, 2017, 03:08:14 pm »

How about we not use carriers then? I mean, we have landmasses close enough...
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Summer 1938 (Battle Phase)
« Reply #254 on: May 02, 2017, 03:10:26 pm »

Well we've-...

Okay you've got a point there. Fuck carriers we're going battlecruisers with land-based air support!
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