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Which team did you play in the last game?

Glorious Arstotzka
- 17 (16%)
Glorious Moskurg
- 13 (12.3%)
Ingloriously Didn't Play
- 76 (71.7%)

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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 601997 times)

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7380 on: October 13, 2018, 04:07:25 am »


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(7) Top and Mid: eS, Powder Miner, NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Piratejoe, Stabby
(0) Anywhere Else :

(6) Nationalize Businesses: NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Kot, Taricus, Andrea
(4-6 fuck if I know please clear this up) Don't Nationalize: Powder Miner, Madman, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman
---Fluff it as the issue being stuck in a committee for the next five years because the committee is always made of 5 stereotypical, capitalist Moskurgers and 5 stereotypical, socialist/communist Arstotzkans: (6) Madman, eS, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman, Stabby

Arstotzka reborn!

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7381 on: October 13, 2018, 08:33:48 am »

How about we nationalize businesses in Arstotzka but not Moskurg, saving al-Turbinwat or however you spell it and also giving the Arstotzkans their communism?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7382 on: October 13, 2018, 08:56:18 am »

Fine for me.

Our superior side will bury you in the end, anyway.

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« Reply #7383 on: October 13, 2018, 09:00:31 am »

Well hopefully people voting for it, cause honestly it's just a blow to the fun of one side if we go all-communist.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7384 on: October 13, 2018, 02:10:14 pm »


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(7) Top and Mid: eS, Powder Miner, NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Piratejoe, Stabby
(0) Anywhere Else :

(6) Nationalize Businesses: NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Kot, Taricus, Andrea
(4) Don't Nationalize: Powder Miner, Madman, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman
(7) Have the issue being stuck in a committee for the next five years because the committee is always made of 5 stereotypical, capitalist Moskurgers and 5 stereotypical, socialist/communist Arstotzkans: Madman, eS, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman, Stabby, Zanzetkuken

Let's not be creating ties now.  Don't want things delayed even more.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7385 on: October 13, 2018, 03:57:44 pm »


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(8) Top and Mid: eS, Powder Miner, NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Piratejoe, Stabby, helmacon
(0) Anywhere Else :

(7) Nationalize Businesses: NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Kot, Taricus, Andrea, helmacon
(4) Don't Nationalize: Powder Miner, Madman, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman
(7) Have the issue being stuck in a committee for the next five years because the committee is always made of 5 stereotypical, capitalist Moskurgers and 5 stereotypical, socialist/communist Arstotzkans: Madman, eS, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman, Stabby, Zanzetkuken

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7386 on: October 13, 2018, 04:29:14 pm »

I'm bored and have nothing useful to do with myself, so in the spirit of submitting designs before the turn just because we can, have a design:

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UF-LT-45 'Snipe Hunt'
The Snipe Hunt is a light tank, an unprecedented development in the archipelago. It is a brand-new extremely small chassis, as small as can be made while still packing a Bjorn engine in the rear of the tank. It is fully amphibious and airdroppable, and to that goal carries only 30mm of sloped Mangalloy frontal armor, and 25mm of sloped Mangalloy on the sides, rear, and top. It definitely resembles other Forenian tanks, though smaller. This is sufficient to make it resistant to hostile autocannon and aircraft fire at all ranges, but keeps weight to a minimum. Slat armor and ERA is incorporated into the design as always, including a slight change to Blood Eagle ERA that removes the unintentional feature of tankwide detonation of ERA as soon as any piece of ERA detonates.

The turret is unusual, in that it carries two high-velocity 40mm autocannon hopefully capable of firing 100-120 rounds per minute apiece. The guns are capable of elevating far enough to engage Cannalan helicopters, and depressing far enough to engage infantry targets at near point-blank ranges, and fire all our standard munitions types. This is made relatively easy because of the short breech block and light weight of a 40mm gun. For armor, the turret has 25mm of mangalloy all around, and is built to be as low-lying as possible.

If at first you don't like how the war is going, decide to finally add several entirely-new roles to tank units: Reconnaissance in force: Read stories from WWII, they're full of "I wish we knew where the enemy was, I guess we need to send somebody out to do recon". It's always light tanks or armored cars who get sent on such missions first, by the way; heavy anti-aircraft which has longer range than the Garlic system ever will, and isn't mounted on a bulky and slow-moving APC frame; APC and light(er)-tank hunter since it can kill Bulls from the flanks (and anything else with Medium armor) assuming the gun isn't crappy; and anti-infantry roles if necessary. I would consider upping the size of the gun to 45mm or so if people prefer that (like Zanzetkuken expressed in the Discord), but that does start reducing the muzzle velocity (and thus killing power and range of the system) or rapidly increasing the weight of the projectiles, casings, and the gun itself, which is something I'd like to avoid.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2018, 07:36:46 pm by Madman198237 »
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7387 on: October 14, 2018, 07:04:03 pm »

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UF-REV-45 "One Dozen Small Revisions"

United Forenian Revision 1945 "One Dozen Small Revisions" is a collection of minor fixes to various pieces of equipment.  They are as follows in no particular order:

1) The steam catapult is applied to both decks of the Z Carrier.
2) The steam catapult is applied to the Wasp Nest.
3) The rafter suspension of aircraft in the Z Carrier are secured and no longer damages aircraft.
4) The ERA+Slats combo on the Salamander is applied to our tanks.
5) Our flamethrowers now utilize napalm.
6) The turrets on the Archer and Garlic are now electrically powered and rotate at reasonable speeds.
7) The doors of the Wooden Spear now open properly and no longer leak.
8) The generators of the Overcompensator are now separated and in underground bunkers.
9) The Horsekiller MkII magazine is reduced down to 4 rounds.
10) The altimeter in our GARM and Saltseeker is fixed.
11) The Trustfall parachute is modified for soldier use.
12) Whatever is preventing the Ice Giant from carrying a decent payload is fixed.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7388 on: October 14, 2018, 07:21:38 pm »

If we do a design that is just a bunch of revisions, it should at least have a common theme. Like infantry weapon modernization, general fleet upgrades, etc. A wide spread of a bunch of minor things like that won't have effect.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7389 on: October 14, 2018, 07:29:56 pm »

Do you have a problem with my QoL MkII, NAV? >:T

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7390 on: October 14, 2018, 08:48:11 pm »

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(9) Top and Mid: eS, Powder Miner, NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Piratejoe, Stabby, helmacon, Iridium
(0) Anywhere Else :

(8 ) Nationalize Businesses: NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Kot, Taricus, Andrea, helmacon, Iridium
(4) Don't Nationalize: Powder Miner, Madman, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman
(7) Have the issue be stuck in a committee for the next five years because the committee is always made of 5 stereotypical, capitalist Moskurgers and 5 stereotypical, socialist/communist Arstotzkans: Madman, eS, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman, Stabby, Zanzetkuken

I'm not good at designs/revisions, so I'll just throw this out here: I think we should make a Boot II and/or improve Tiger armour next turn. Reading the old combat reports, the Tiger armour seems to give us a huge infantry advantage.
EDIT: Or a modernization of our flamethrower.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2018, 09:01:34 pm by Iridium64 »
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7391 on: October 14, 2018, 08:55:50 pm »

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(9) Top and Mid: eS, Powder Miner, NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Piratejoe, Stabby, helmacon, Iridium
(0) Anywhere Else :

(8 ) Nationalize Businesses: NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Kot, Taricus, Andrea, helmacon, Iridium
(4) Don't Nationalize: Powder Miner, Madman, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman
(8) Have the issue be stuck in a committee for the next five years because the committee is always made of 5 stereotypical, capitalist Moskurgers and 5 stereotypical, socialist/communist Arstotzkans: Madman, eS, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman, Stabby, Zanzetkuken, Jilladilla

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7392 on: October 14, 2018, 09:05:18 pm »

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(9) Top and Mid: eS, Powder Miner, NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Piratejoe, Stabby, helmacon, Iridium
(0) Anywhere Else :

(8 ) Nationalize Businesses: NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Kot, Taricus, Andrea, helmacon, Iridium
(12) Don't Nationalize: Powder Miner, Madman, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman
           !- (8 ) Have the issue be stuck in a committee for the next five years because the committee is always made of 5 stereotypical, capitalist Moskurgers and 5 stereotypical, socialist/communist Arstotzkans: Madman, eS, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman, Stabby, Zanzetkuken, Jilladilla

Someone in the discord pointed out the votes should look more like this, given the third was an extension of the second.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Winter 1945 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #7393 on: October 14, 2018, 09:25:43 pm »

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(9) Top and Mid: eS, Powder Miner, NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Piratejoe, Stabby, helmacon, Iridium
(0) Anywhere Else :

(8 ) Nationalize Businesses: NAV, ConscriptFive, Kashyyk, Kot, Taricus, Andrea, helmacon, Iridium
(8 ) Don't Nationalize*: Madman, eS, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Olith McHuman, Stabby, Zanzetkuken, Jilladilla

*Have the issue be stuck in a committee for the next five years because the committee is always made of 5 stereotypical, capitalist Moskurgers and 5 stereotypical, socialist/communist Arstotzkans

It would still add up to 8, since those are people who voted for both.

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« Reply #7394 on: October 14, 2018, 09:45:44 pm »

I'd kind of like to revert the vote to voting for the committee thing, since it appears that some people took it to be a third option entirely (And it is a reasonable third action, really, a "didn't actually make a choice" sort of thing)
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