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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 603174 times)

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6405 on: June 11, 2018, 10:58:40 pm »

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UFAF-ARS-44 "Shield Maiden" Definitve I believe: (2) Wizgrot, Piratejoe
Tiger Armor 2:(1) Kashyyk
Saltseeker:(2) Happerry, Stabby
UF-PTB-44 "Kurtz":(0)
Valkyrie:(0)
UF-APS-44 "Burning Tiger":(5) Quake, PM, Jilladilla, eS, ConscriptFive
UFAF-A-44 ‘Manta’ (1): Lightforger
UFAF-F-44 'Lightning Streak II': (1) Madman

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6406 on: June 11, 2018, 11:00:01 pm »

Didn't one of the flare upgrade designs feature rocket propelled flares? Why doesn't the burning tiger have that?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6407 on: June 11, 2018, 11:05:50 pm »

I think our only flares are rocket-propelled, but Cannalan Magic Missiles can do damage at the distances our flares reach, despite gravity-based flares being the modern standard...
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6408 on: June 11, 2018, 11:20:12 pm »

It's all very fucky and vague, but the Tiger should be able to do what we've been trying to accomplish from the beginning

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6409 on: June 12, 2018, 01:45:31 pm »

All flares are rocket propelled pretty much.  The design assumes that as such.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6410 on: June 12, 2018, 03:58:28 pm »

I agree we need countermeasures, I disagree that fighter radar is a retrofit level change for the lightnings so I think thats a bad idea, but I also have come around to the idea that my idea of a new fighter with radar and all countermeasures is way harder than just countermeasures and is therefore also stupid.  Here is my proposal:

UF-APS-44 "Burning Tiger" - This system amounts to general countermeasures aimed at degrading cannalan smart munitions, including balefire thermal guidance, hypothetical radar guidance, and proximity fuses.  It provides electrostatic and radio fuse jammers based on the fair fight intended to reduce the effectiveness of cannalan fused flak, meant to be adequately small to be usable by ground elements against fused artillery, installed in the frightenings electronic warfare bay, or on bombers.  It amounts to an improved version of the fair fight module.  Our flare dispensor systems are to be expanded into a higher capacity grid ala this:

and the flare compound is to be improved into a pyrotechnic compound developed to more closely match our jet engines.  This system is meant for use on our aircraft to take the place of our existing, crappy flare launchers.  Additionally, chaff launcehrs are to be developed more or less along the lines of the flare launchers but of a lower capacity (since the things tend to be bulkier) for deployment onboard aircraft to degrade radar tracking and to distract hypothetical radar guided aspect seeking missiles.

e: Also this is a thing to consider:


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UF-GCS-44 "Shield Maiden" Pattern IV (1) - QuakeIV

Your attempts at a device which detonates enemy ES proxy fuzes prematurely resulted in a device which blows all the electrical fuses in the plane and makes the entire airframe get warm, without much other effect.

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UF-APS-44 "Burning Tiger":
The Burning Tiger is a decoy flare launcher which can be integrated easily into airframes without aerodynamic issues, so it can more readily be used on fighters, and drops a lot of flares quickly although the flares still aren't extremely attractive to missiles. [2 Oil]
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6411 on: June 12, 2018, 04:02:50 pm »

Should only take another four or five tries to get something effective.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6412 on: June 12, 2018, 04:07:03 pm »

Sigh, let me guess, Cannala got that 5 I prophesied on discord....or a 6, or anything above a 2....
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6413 on: June 12, 2018, 04:07:45 pm »

'Burning Engineer' Flare Correction
Charmingly named after what happened to the latest group of engineers who failed to do a competent job. Hopefully inspired by what happened to their predecessors the new flares burn a the same approximate temperate as our turbine engines. If the engineers want to get a bit of extra life insurance; chaff is also to be created.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2018, 04:18:58 pm by Light forger »
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6414 on: June 12, 2018, 04:12:50 pm »

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(2) Burning Tiger: LightForger, eS

Maybe we'll have a better revision than the last four times, and our fifth attempt at counter-measures will work.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6415 on: June 12, 2018, 04:31:49 pm »

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(3) Burning Tiger: LightForger, eS, Piratejoe

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6416 on: June 12, 2018, 04:32:54 pm »

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(4) Burning Tiger: LightForger, eS, Piratejoe, Powder Miner
Fhis is what I proposed we do if the design fucked up before the design fucked up, and we really need this, so let’s goooo.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6417 on: June 12, 2018, 05:35:31 pm »

Oh for fuck sakes....

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(5) Burning Tiger: LightForger, eS, Piratejoe, Powder Miner, Conscript Five

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6418 on: June 12, 2018, 05:55:05 pm »

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(6) Burning Tiger: LightForger, eS, Piratejoe, Powder Miner, Conscript Five, NAV
I really don't like spending our entire turn on a purely defensive thing that will probably only serve to lessen the effectiveness of their missiles. But fuck, its our only option.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1944 (Design Phase)
« Reply #6419 on: June 12, 2018, 08:52:41 pm »


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(7) Burning Tiger: LightForger, eS, Piratejoe, Powder Miner, Conscript Five, NAV, helmacon
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