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Total Members Voted: 106

[piratejoe]

I feel like we are stuck in an endless back and forth when it comes to the air. We need to find a way to reliably overcome their missiles that cant simply be overcome by Cannala saying "We make our missiles immune to this and also even better" or we step up our game in the missile department and make a missile that is late cold war levels in tech because I feel it's either that or we abandon the sky, and I know we won't abandon the sky....

Or we can just work on very large missiles and nuclear weapons, because that surely will work, surely.

[evictedSaint]

UF-GALT-43 "Last Chance"

The United Forenian Gyroscopic Auto-Loading Turret 1943 "Last Chance" is a turret designed to be compatible with our Very Expensive Bjorn Heavy, Expensive T33 Medium, and our Cheap T25 and Breaker Light tanks.

The UF-GALT-43 "Last Chance" makes use of a gyroscopic stabilizer to allow a tank to fire accurately while on the move.  The Auto-Loader reduces the size of the turret, and removes a loader from the already cramped confines of the Bjorn.  The Last Chance makes use of our 100 mm cannon, Very Heavy armor, flooded ammo stowage, and comes with a stencil and can of spray paint to allow crews to easily add kill markers to the side.

Sweet, simply, and deadly-effective in open areas.  Highly mobile tanks are key in areas like the desert, I'm pretty sure Rommel showed us that.  Being able to shoot while on the move means our assaults don't slow down.

[Sensei]

huh... Some things about the Balefire seem odd. Could someone clarify some things for me?
How would it track something(heat source) to its side

Its sensor head is mounted on a gimbal, a device which allows it to swivel in all directions. A little bit like this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The sensor head itself has a few sensors so it knows which way to swing the gimbal and keep the sensor on target. This is crucial as the steering of the missile is based only on the speed and direction of the swinging gimbal, not the actual IR sensor inputs.

[Parsely]

UF-GALT-43 "Last Chance"

The United Forenian Gyroscopic Auto-Loading Turret 1943 "Last Chance" is a turret designed to be compatible with our Very Expensive Bjorn Heavy, Expensive T33 Medium, and our Cheap T25 and Breaker Light tanks.

The UF-GALT-43 "Last Chance" makes use of a gyroscopic stabilizer to allow a tank to fire accurately while on the move.  The Auto-Loader reduces the size of the turret, and removes a loader from the already cramped confines of the Bjorn.  The Last Chance makes use of our 100 mm cannon, Very Heavy armor, flooded ammo stowage, and comes with a stencil and can of spray paint to allow crews to easily add kill markers to the side.

Sweet, simply, and deadly-effective in open areas.  Highly mobile tanks are key in areas like the desert, I'm pretty sure Rommel showed us that.  Being able to shoot while on the move means our assaults don't slow down.

An autoloader means a smaller and therefore less expensive (less armor needed) and more survivable turret for ALL of our tanks, plus the stabilizer as a sweet cherry on top. I like it!

UF-MLRS-44 "Artemis" (1) - QuakeIV
UF-GALT-43 "Last Chance" (1) - Parsely

[VoidSlayer]

Is there some way we could block the IR sensors from detecting our aircraft?  I get that the heat from the engines is the big draw but if we had something cooling around them we could be invisible to the missiles.

As for the spy tech, what about our improved horsekiller, but in a collapsible and easy to disguise format?  Make smuggling a high powered sniper rifle into enemy countries easy.

[evictedSaint]

We can't hide the heat signature of a pair of massive jet engines even if they flameout all the time, because why wouldn't they.  It would be better to just fix the flares which don't really work for some reason, because why would we ever get 100% functional equipment, right?

I dunno how you're going to strip down a 23 kg rifle.  It might be better to make a stripped down and collapsable Osprey.  Either way, it doesnt really matter; unless we can think of something that would beat fully functional cold war era night vision goggles in 1943, Cannala is going to walk away with this event too.  I dunno, maybe C4? A submersible car? An exploding pen?  I have no idea whether this is James Bond type spying, Navy Seals infiltration type spying, or real-world type spying.  If it's the latter, then the best tool you could give a spy is a camera and a huge wad of cash.

[RAM]

A portable radio receiver, triangulator, recorder, and transmitter, ideally with a relay transmitter to broadcast from elsewhere, relayed to by cable or short-range transmission, could be a useful spy tool...

[VoidSlayer]

Okay, what if we turned the Saruhk into piracy warning type guided missiles while improving their flight accuracy and mounting them on an APC/making them load faster.

We can use them for anti tank and infantry then revise a variant to target planes.

[Kashyyk]

We could steal their Night vision with one revision then use the espionage revision to improve on it?

[VoidSlayer]

Well we do not actually get the results of the espionage revision.

[Kashyyk]

Not the tech no, but presumably we will get the experience.

[ConscriptFive]

As I said last week, our IDF is underperforming.  We've lost the skies again, so CAS from the increasingly obsolete Haast is more or less gone.  The Artemis is literally Sarukh times *FIFTEEN* in terms of barrage size.  Going from Katyusha to Grad is the game changer we need.

Plus, it advances our rocketry/missile experience.  Someday we're going to want to push past the Piracy Warning and/or build an anti-ship missile.  Not to mention the Artemis could be conceivably rebuilt into a SAM battery.

UF-MLRS-44 "Artemis" (2) - QuakeIV, Conscript Five
UF-GALT-43 "Last Chance" (1) - Parsely

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure I understand the "Last Chance" turret.  The Bjorn is still the best tank out there and I'm not sure it needs improvement yet.  Newer almost always equals more expensive, and I'm skeptical that it'll succeed in making the Bjorn less expensive.  Even then, is it the Bjorn times *FIFTEEN*?

[NAV]

UF-MLRS-44 "Artemis" (3) - QuakeIV, Conscript Five, NAV
UF-GALT-43 "Last Chance" (1) - Parsely

I would prefer a self propelled gun, but don't have time to write it and PAROI.

[Light forger]

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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

UFAF-CM-44 "Fuck your Missiles"

An upgrade to the existing countermeasures, this now aerodynamic shell now contains the ability to mount either flares or radar scattering chaff.  The formula for the flares is much longer lasting, and both are able to be ejected via rockets a large distance before deploying to prevent missiles from damaging our planes.  They are small enough so that there is the potential to add many to each wing.


Given the number of things being done, this is too much for a revision, and we really want to head off the potential for them making a Radar missile.  Given our air superiority is one of the reasons we last pushed them out of the desert and flares are the only way we've been somewhat countering their missiles, I'd be damn sure they'll be making one for this coming turn.