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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 592061 times)

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6180 on: May 25, 2018, 08:27:35 am »

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(6) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot
(7)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (7) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (5) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive

Don't Send Germany Anything: (0)

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)


I feel that just decomplexing or stealing things arenīt worth enough. If we get a good roll, it will basically go to waste. I would suggest an slight improvement or modification over the thing we are trying to decomplex in case we finally get good rolls.

RDN-43-5 "UNDEAD RAY"

While the Forenian Air Forces are without doubt the mightiest of the island, the cowardly nature of our enemy makes their effect in the war rather lacking. But if Cannalans wonīt engage us like gentlemen, we cannot but hunt them  like the beast they are.

The Undead Ray will be a centerpiece for the elimination of Cannalan scoundrels in the air. It is a mass produced version of the Mk.4, refining the idea of the cavity magnetron for significantly better range and and resolution than the one those pirates use, allowing us to hunt them down before they spot our planes in their radar. As a final thought, we have tried to fit it into our older planes so they can too can benefit from the radar.

UF-NV-43 "Vampire"

The Vampire is a night vision system, fully developed in Forenia. It is ,coincidentally, quite similar to the Cannalan Aswang, although with reduced battery that can be more easily carried and better integration with our scopes, using the experience garnered with the Horsekiller scopes. Both our engineers and spies believe that we can finish the project in time to file off the little Cannalan flags engraved in the dammed things.

Basically, suggestions for both our decomplexion and steal projects, so as to not get nothing if we finally get lucky.

About Germany. They are going to lose. Donīt send them our best plane. Letīs just show to the URSS and USA what it can do, and imply how shameful it is that we are in the wrong sides of this war and how are we going to need to give this plane to Germany else another side become sour patron in this war against Cannala (wink, wink)
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6181 on: May 25, 2018, 08:46:40 am »

We could also do
Radar Revision You've got to be kidding me, is anyone even counting anymore?
Work is invested in refining the construction processes for the Deadliest Ray radar (and its variants). This will make them significantly easier to produce, making a radar available for every ship and plane that can fit one.

Oh yeah, and we stuck a Deadliest Ray in the cargo bay of a Reckless Effect and turned it on. The crew didn't explode or burst into flames or crash and die when they discovered that the radar was mounted with recycled, rust-filled bolts, so we certified the UFAF-ARS-43 'Spyglass' ready for business.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6182 on: May 25, 2018, 09:53:11 am »

When have we ever been able to do de[COMPLEX]ification plus a regular revision? A minor sea advantage will have minor effects at 3/4 of the way inland, and we already have radar planes up and doing their thing.

Even from a simple action economy perspective, stealing the Aswang is the right move that gives us 3 Designs:1 Revision.

I know it sucks to steal Cannala's stuff, but without it we are going to lose completely every single night in the jungle.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6183 on: May 25, 2018, 10:44:07 am »

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(7) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(7)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (7) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (5) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive

Don't Send Germany Anything: (0)

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)

As for what (if anything) to send Germany, surely that's a strategy phase vote?
We totally should send them something, though, because when WWII ends, the people who came up with the Axis's brilliant weapons not only come out alright, they actually get in good with the Allies who are desperate to get some of that expertise for themselves. Now, we might not survive until the end of the war... but if we do, sending Germany something now won't have bad consequences. And presumably there will be some short-term benefit to sending them something. Besides, this is what our alliance is about: we send them tech, they send us resources. It would be dishonest not to do so.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6184 on: May 25, 2018, 11:05:06 am »

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(7) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(7)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (7) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (5) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive

Don't Send Germany Anything: (1) Powder Miner

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)
I want to point out that the results we got from stealing the missile were on a 6, so there’s far from a guarantee that we’ll actually get the full Aswang.

We’re getting shit from the Swiss now, so fuck’ em. But even if you guys do wanna send shit to the Germans, surely it doesn’t have to be our best design (which they might already have half of guys lmao we worked with Leipzig University for the VVF, remember?) does it?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6185 on: May 25, 2018, 11:09:49 am »

What was Germany's greatest problem in the late stages of WWII? Oil.

What does the VVF require lots of? Oil.

It's a god plane, but it's not what Germany needs.  Like all their other jets at the end of the war, the VVF will be sitting on the runway, completely empty.

What we should send them is the Piracy Warning.

The Piracy Warning is a guaranteed plane-kill,  and their interceptors can carry two each.  That means each B17 that the Allies sends to bomb their oil production will lose two bombers per interceptor, guaranteed.

Plus, Japan might really like a missile to intercept two very special bombers eight turns from now...


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(7) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(7)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (7) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (5) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive
-Piracy Warning: (1) eS

Don't Send Germany Anything: (0)

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)

Plus, it would be interesting to see Allied planes shot down by an Allied-developed weapon.  We could write "From Cannala, With Love" on each and every one....

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6186 on: May 25, 2018, 11:13:23 am »

A fair point eS; let's send them the missile.
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(7) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(7)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (7) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (5) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive
-Piracy Warning: (2) eS, Jilladilla

Don't Send Germany Anything: (0)

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6187 on: May 25, 2018, 12:41:18 pm »

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6188 on: May 25, 2018, 01:03:41 pm »

@ES the VV Frightening is a two item design to the germans. The plane bit they may not necessarily need, true. But it's the RADAR onboard that's the real game-changer. With that, the allies aren't the only one with fighter mounted RADAR, and could seriously, if not outright stop, allied bombing attempts.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6189 on: May 25, 2018, 01:28:54 pm »

Again, the airborne radar won't do much if it's attached to a plane sitting on the runway with an empty gas tank.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6190 on: May 25, 2018, 02:10:11 pm »

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(7) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(7)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (7) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (5) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive
-Piracy Warning: (2) eS, Jilladilla

Don't Send Germany Anything: (1) Powder Miner

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6191 on: May 25, 2018, 02:20:41 pm »

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(7) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(7)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (7) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (4) Madman, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive
-Piracy Warning: (3) eS, Jilladilla, Piratejoe

Don't Send Germany Anything: (1) Powder Miner

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6192 on: May 25, 2018, 02:37:45 pm »


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(7) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(8)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV, MoP
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (8) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot, MoP
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (4) Madman, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive
-Piracy Warning: (4) eS, Jilladilla, Piratejoe, MoP

Don't Send Germany Anything: (1) Powder Miner

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6193 on: May 25, 2018, 03:32:35 pm »

We already have radar in the air.  While it's true it will help at sea, a minor naval advantage at 3/4 in the jungle won't help very much.

Night Vision is most effective in the jungle, and they will have every night to operate unopposed if we don't have NV of our own.  Radar is good, but the effects won't be as pronounced as we need them to be.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Spring 1943 (Revision Phase)
« Reply #6194 on: May 25, 2018, 03:39:43 pm »

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(8) Steal the latest Aswang: QuakeIV, eS, Jilladilla, Parsely, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13, Kot
-Name it UF-NV-43 "Vampire": eS, Jilladilla, Happerry, Wizgrot, NUKE9.13
(8)Decomplexify Radar: Kashyyk, Madman, Powder Miner, Piratejoe, Taricus, ConscriptFive, NAV, MoP
(1) UF-MINE-43 "Pinata": Wizgrot

Send Germany Something: (8) Madman, Piratejoe, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Jilladilla, Wizgrot, MoP
-Bjorn: (1) Wizgrot
-VVF: (5) Madman, Kashyyk, Taricus, ConscriptFive, Kot
-Piracy Warning: (4) eS, Jilladilla, Piratejoe, MoP

Don't Send Germany Anything: (1) Powder Miner

Also, send the specs (not design) with the Americans and Russians. See if they are interested:(1) Wizgrot

Donīt send them anything:(0)
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