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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Flare Rollout
The main focus of the design is the flare, effectively a small rocket designed to burn very brightly, and for a long time when fired. This has a number of uses, including non-radio signalling, night-fight illumination and as MAGIC countermeasures. Thry can be fitted from handheld flare guns, as mortar and artillery rounds or in a burst to confuse enemy heat-seeking missiles.

We can do that in a revision.  Let's get a better tank now.  Might even be able to get some gear to drive them underwater at the same time and only keeping them Hard at best.

[Kashyyk]

We don't exactly have any tech to base our flares off of though do we? If it goes like our lander were won't be able to do it for a revision.

[andrea]

Well, we do have incendiary round and grenades and stuff. I would say they could reasonably be revised, although best to ask Sensei.

[10ebbor10]

We could also try to go for a naval design. With luck, we may be able to push the Cannalan's back.

[NAV]

AS Technology
-Flares

We have basic flares to revise from at least.

I heavily agree with a new heavy tank design and a flare revision.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I would prefer to boost our land performance so that we can establish a beachhead, especially on Titan.  Capturing even an iota of ground there will seriously fuck up their whole war machine, and since tanks are noted as being quite good there, managing to create something that gives us that advantage will win us big.  Heck, maybe we could have a Bumblebee mounted in the thing so it can serve as AA as well as boosting the destructive abilities of the thing.

[10ebbor10]

Our landers still suck though, so we're not going to get that much benefit from tanks.

Maybe aircraft deployed anti-ground missiles, that should help a bit.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Our landers still suck though, so we're not going to get that much benefit from tanks.

Given how little of a mention they are given, a better lander will likely not do anything at all to help us out, or would only be insignificant.  Tanks seem to have a much more noticeable effect and therefore would give us much better results from swinging it in our favor.

[evictedSaint]

UF-MBT-42 “Bjorn”

Named after the Arstotzkan mythological hero of firepower, the United Forenian Main Battle Tank 1942 “Bjorn” aims to perform the role of "Mobile Firepower". This tank is designed to feature the latest in technology in an attempt to make up for the rapid obsoletion of our current decade-old interwar-era armor.

The main armament of the Bjorn features a 100 mm 55 caliber muzzle-brake equipped sliding-block breech cannon, designed not only to match Cannalan killing power but overmatch the armor on their Bull tanks. This armament also features wet ammo stowage copied from current American M4 tanks in order to reduce the likelihood of ammo fires and torsion-bar suspension to improve on-the-move firing stability. The optical periscopes appear on the roof of the turret and drivers hatch in order to prevent breaking up the perimeter surfaces of the armor, which is intensely sloped Very Heavy frontal, Heavy side, and Heavy RHA on the turret.  The surfaces of the armor are designed with ERA in mind and feature flat - but angled - surfaces.  Mangalloy is used on the frontal surfaces of the tank to further improve armor.  The tank is water-tight when buttoned up with the air intakes and exhausts on the upper surface of the hull.

Secondary armaments include a coaxial M3 Sorraia machinegun and floodlight, as well as a pintle-mounted M3 Sorraia machinegun and spotlight mounted on the commander’s hatch. Smoke grenade launchers are shamelessly copied from Cannala’s tanks to generate on-demand smoke screens, and our Bumblebee mechanical targeting computer is integrated into the turret to allow improved tracking of moving targets. The heavy twin-charged 12 cylinder diesel engine is mounted in a sealed chamber in front of the crew compartment in order to act as additional armor in the event of a frontal hull breach; by necessity this moves the turret mounting further to the rear of the tank.  The turret is electrically operated, but features hand-cranks in the event of a power failure.

Perhaps the most ambitious aspect of the Bjorn is the 2-plane stabilizer on the barrel; a mechanical device which prevents the barrel from bouncing during travel and allowing more accurate firing capability while on the move. This stabilizer is the most advanced piece of technology not currently available to us, but it is a time-period appropriate technology that was invented in 1938 and fully implemented by 1944.  With the Bumblebee targeting computer and 2-plane stabilization, the Bjorn is envisioned as a tank that can fire accurately without having to stop moving.

Main Armament:             100 mm 55 caliber muzzle-braked sliding-block cannon
Secondary Armament:    Coaxial M3 Sorraia, Pintle-Mounted M3 Sorraia, Smoke Launchers, Spotlights, Floodlights
Armor:                            Very Heavy Sloped RHA front, Heavy RHA side, Heavy RHA turret, ERA, Mangalloy Frontal Armor, Forward-Mounted Engine(last resort)
Engine:                           Crystalfire Industries 4-cycle 12-cylinder water-cooled twin-charged diesel engine
Crew:                              5 crew members - Gunner, Loader, Driver, Commander, Radio Operator
Suspension:                    Torsion-bar
Additional:                      Bumblebee Targeting Computer, 2-Plane Mechanical Gun Stabilizer, Wet Ammo Storage, Optical Lens Periscopes

Considering tanks are one of the most crucial pieces of ground-warfare, we really need one that's not absolutely inferior to what Cannala is fielding. By the sheer nature of not having a jet turbine in the rear, the Bjorn should be a better tank.  The fact that it's designed to be an "on-the-move" vehicle that doesn't need to be stationary to fire accurately means we'll be able to overrun Cannala in the Tundra to the south and the hills to the north, as well as any other relatively flat unobscured terrain.

The best part is, this tank design doesn't feature any technology that doesn't already exist.

[Arlos]

Hum, I'm not actually playing and only follow from afar really, but If I remember well, didn't Forenia War end 2 Turn before the Canalan?
Did you guys get the 2 turns of designs?

Not trying to be annoying or anything, just curious.

[evictedSaint]

Hum, I'm not actually playing and only follow from afar really, but If I remember well, didn't Forenia War end 2 Turn before the Canalan?
Did you guys get the 2 turns of designs?

Not trying to be annoying or anything, just curious.

We got a single design to make up the gap.  We spent it on a torpedo that wasn't very effective.

[Arlos]

Hum, I'm not actually playing and only follow from afar really, but If I remember well, didn't Forenia War end 2 Turn before the Canalan?
Did you guys get the 2 turns of designs?

Not trying to be annoying or anything, just curious.

We got a single design to make up the gap.  We spent it on a torpedo that wasn't very effective.

Uh, okay...

Well, I'm cheering for you guys!!! Go Artoska! *kahem* I mean go Forenia!!!
You are finally turning this around after being destroyed at sea for years

[NAV]

Stop calling our tanks WW1 era! World war 1 ended in 1918. Our tank was made in 1933, which is the interwar era. It is a good for that era even, way better than anything from world war 1.

I also think the coaxial weapon should be a velociraptor autocannon instead of a sorraia. It's a big tank, let's not skimp on the secondary weapons.

[evictedSaint]

Stop calling our tanks WW1 era! World war 1 ended in 1918. Our tank was made in 1933, which is the interwar era. It is a good for that era even, way better than anything from world war 1.

I also think the coaxial weapon should be a velociraptor autocannon instead of a sorraia. It's a big tank, let's not skimp on the secondary weapons.

Fair point, I'll change it to say interwar.

No - fitting in the Bumblebee calculator is bulky enough.  I'm not sure you realize how BIG a 20 mm cannon is - anything that we need a 20 mm for, the 100 mm can take care of.  The sorraia is for infantry.  I'm not going to budge on this, sorry.

[andrea]

the cannon itself is fairly small actually. We did some good engineering there. The ammunition for it is another matter entirely.