The War Horse HMG/Super-HMG will be an invaluable asset for defense. The firerate is better than any autocannon, even though it's still slow. The M2 Browning wasn't exactly doing Hitler's Buzzsaw with 1000+ RPM, after all. It was relatively slow-firing. But when the enemy realizes that your average full-grown tree doesn't provide any cover, infantry assaults are going to go to a standstill. Plus, it will give us additional guns on the line----it supplements the autocannons, not replaces them. It is meant to be mobile, portable in, say, three-man teams (Two guys lugging the gun and some ammo, one with the tripod and a lot of ammo), or two-man with the cart.
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That image is about what I'm thinking of. It's probably slightly upscaled from that, but with a bit of modification that cart, can carry ammo as well. IRL, the cart can be moved and used by a 2-man team and carries a .50 cal Russian HMG.
We're not automatically adding the things onto aircraft. Unless it adds no difficulty. But think about it: This is going to be, at most, Normal difficulty. It's a gun, been in production for decades, that we understand. Not to mention, it's hideously outdated and doesn't use modern advancements, making it easy for a modern engineer to say "Oh wow, we can just do this and this like our LMG/MMGs and this like the autocannons and BOOM, it's better". We have a lot of engineering basis for keeping weights down (On the autocannon, I believe) and also for higher firerates (Sorraia) and all of that fun stuff. Anything else is tempting fate with the difficulty.
Our AS-AC18 has a fire rate of "about 600 times per minute", according to the equipment list. Quit making up facts, because the AS-AC18 has a better rate of fire than the War Horse's 200 RPM. And again the AS-AC18's 20mm rounds are also armour-penetrating, so I don't see what the War Horse has to offer us there.
For your picture, note the background. Urban terrain. That's a lot easier to move a wheeled cart through and around than the jungle undergrowth. Have you ever tried pulling a wheeled cart through the jungle? Neither have I, because that's ridiculously impractical. In the jungle, once off the track, the only way to move things is by legs (or by heli-winch which we don't have yet). Also, the M2 Browning with tripod is
58 kilograms, not including any ammo at all. If you think 20+ kilograms of weapon per person is reasonable, excluding literally all other equipment, then you are free to vote for the War Horse.
Also, given that your description includes "will also be mounted in appropriate aircraft", I'm going to assume that was a factor in getting people to vote for it as well, so it's disingenuous to claim that we suddenly won't do so. I believe other people have already gone into detail why expecting this thing to replace the Sorraia without issue is ludicrous, so I won't do it again.
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I'm not worried about the difficulty. As the Haast showed, difficulty doesn't matter if you roll a 6. But even if you succeed and get exactly what you asked for in terms of requirements, that doesn't mean the weapon will perform as expected. Again, during the Haast debacle, people essentially said "Add in the requirement for one tonne of bombs! If we fail, we'll at least get 500 kg!". The game doesn't work that way, we succeeded and got a plane with 1000kg of bombs, but it was quite useless as a fighter.
Listing down outrageous requirements in the design and expecting the GM to do the work of cutting it down to reasonable numbers according to the die roll isn't how the game works.
Infantry QoL is likely going to be too big for a revision. Look at the list: How extensive is it? How much of it do we have a basis for? Also, is it worth it? And I'd say, heck no. Not the one linked in the vote box. Where's the extended list?
So the QoL list is too big for a revision, yet you also don't want the shortened list? What's your meaning here?
Also, NAV, you can disable smilies in your post under "Attachments and other options" below the post box if you edit your post.
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