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Glorious Arstotzka

17 (16%)

Glorious Moskurg

13 (12.3%)

Ingloriously Didn't Play

76 (71.7%)

Total Members Voted: 106

[Powder Miner]

No, I think we should do radio rather than radar if we're doing a rad-- revision, because every advantage we can get on the ground is crucial right now, and we JUST lost our communications advantage.

[RAM]

0 ANY-AG-1939 "Bunny Hop is the Jive!":
UF-APC-39 'Salamander' Pattern A: (0)
UF-APC-39 'Salamander' Pattern B. (11) NUKE9.13, Azzuro, Happerry, Kashyyk, Helmacon, Piratejoe, evictedSaint, 3_14159, NAV, Baffler, Madman198237
UF-40-H/MB-T 'Demolisher': (1) Taricus
UF-HAT-39-B"Vanguard": (1) Khan Boyzitbig

[/quote]
So nice that we are still deleting people's propsals...
You seem to have not noticed the initial voting quote, this makes me sad.

[Olith McHuman]

Or we could just do what Cannala did and make a single back-pack radio.

Although honestly, I think longer-ranged radar (with a side attempt to decrease size) would be a better use of our revision.

Idea, what if we built a passive system to detect radar pings? All it has to do is beep when it hears a pulse, so it should be an easy design. We might even cram it into a plane, and only make it look forwards so they can home in on enemy ships, or even ground bases a night to some degree. Of course, they could turn off their radar too...

[evictedSaint]

...that's brilliant.

[NAV]

Hmm, could we make it so it goes "Ping" when it detects radar in any direction, and goes "Boop" when it detects the radar frontwards?

[NUKE9.13]

I'm not totally sure that being behind in communications is the end of the world? I mean, it's not like they developed codebreakers and signal jammers, our communications still work, and remain secret. They have the advantage of being able to carry them in a backpack, but that isn't a massive advantage, merely a large one.

I still like the idea of doing some simple QoL things for our revision, to improve all our forces, but especially the infantry.

[evictedSaint]

...we could always give ERA another try...

Hell, NERA would make our stuff invulnerable to everything except their HEAT rounds and rpg's.

[Powder Miner]

Our communications advantage has been consistently described as a factor in our favor, even where listening in on yarrs HASN'T been involved, with stuff such as coordination being a noted upside. Cannala getting better radio this turn was also described as one of the factors getting them jungle ground. However, smaller radio would give us a fantastic advantage on one front: our paratroopers. All of the asskicking our paratroopers have been doing has, for the largest part, been WITHOUT radio. If we get those paratroopers coordination ability behind enemy lines...? Whew.

Infantry QoL doesn't really provide us with a critical enough advantage to burn a revision on it while we're behind.

[evictedSaint]

Eh...powder is right.  We should get paratrooper capable radios.

Revision: UF-R4-39 'Tigers Roar'
The Radio has been consolidated down to a single easy-to-carry backpack.  By default the radio can communicate unencrypted, but encrypted comms channels requires the operator to input a password between four and ten digits long.  The only significant change besides the reduced side is converting the encryption from text to voice.  The encryption used Paired-Bases for passwords; the password is used as a base to scramble the output of the radio, and the same password is used to decipher the output message.  This allows the encryption code to be changed quickly and easily.  The radio is also attuned to FM frequencies rather than AM, to gain better range and quality.

The main priority is scaling down to back-pack size, followed by FM radio, followed by the voice encryption.

Considering how much time we've sunk into the RADAR, these shouldn't be especially difficult changes, I don't think...my reasoning is that decreasing the size should be trivial or easy, so we should attempt to improve our comms encryption ability as well.  We have plenty of experience with radiowaves and electronics at this point, and this tech already exists.

[NAV]

Spoiler: Added a few more things to the infantry QOL list. Maybe next turn eh? (click to show/hide)

INFANTRY QUALITY OF LIFE:
There are a number of small things our infantry have been requesting for a while now. By themselves, they are not worth our time. Combining them changes matters.
-Boots. A good pair of boots. Infantry love boots. Goal: excellent hiking boots with minor protection from shrapnel (As in, made of tough fibers. Not metal.)
-Binoculars. We've enough experience with lenses that we can surely design a decent pair.
-Medkits. A little first aid can save hundreds of lives. More to the point, knowing that help is available improves morale.
-Sunglasses. You try shooting someone with the sun in your eyes.
-Bayonets. Sometimes you just need a knife. On the end of your gun. A big knife.
-Better Parachutes: Basic steering and possibly higher weight capacity increase our paratroopers' self-reliance.
-Entrenching tools (foldable/collapsible spades). Double as highly effective melee/throwing weapons. Just ask the Spetsnaz. Also, foxholes are good for paratroopers.
-Sandbags. Well duh. Is this even necessary?
-Engineering equipment (more sandbags, dedicated tools like wire cutters, barbed wire/razor wire, small axes, pickaxes, etc). Aimed at improving the quality of our minefields, traps, and defensive positions.
-Vests, bags, bandoliers, pockets and pouches, even elbow ones Carry capacity for soldiers---more ammo means more bang-bang-bang-bang-bang means more kills, means more survivability, means a place to put everything we're about to drop on them
-Waterproof camo cloaks.
-Knee and elbow pads.
-Gloves, fire resistant and capable of fast-roping or rock-climbing or similar hard-wearing activities.
-Fire retardant uniforms. We've got flamethrowers running around here!
-Winter and tropical versions of the uniforms.
-Healthier and tastier rations. Include extra alcohol supplies for rear-echelon positions, for soldiers on rest/leave. A well-fed soldier is a hard fighter. Also, drunkards don't bother thinking about war, which means we retain patriotism longer. Not sure of too many benefits of that....
-Manganese steel helmets and vests. Can't kill what they can't kill. Wait a minute....
-Flashlights. Hands free, attachable to guns or helmets. Different coloured lens filters to use for signaling.
-Flares and flareguns
-Cricket noisemaker. Sounds like a cricket. "Operation was simple: If someone approached, you clicked your cricket, making the most innocuous of night-time sounds. If the passer-by clicked back, you knew you had encountered a friendly comrade."
-Improved compasses and navigation equipment.
-At least 3 different ways of starting a fire (lighter, matches, flint&steel)
-dim glow in the dark patches, can be worn on back. Makes it easier to play follow the leader in the dark, don't have to follow quite so closely to see the person in front of you.

[stabbymcstabstab]

0 ANY-AG-1939 "Bunny Hop is the Jive!":
UF-APC-39 'Salamander' Pattern A: (0)
UF-APC-39 'Salamander' Pattern B. (12) NUKE9.13, Azzuro, Happerry, Kashyyk, Helmacon, Piratejoe, evictedSaint, 3_14159, NAV, Baffler, Madman198237, Stabby
UF-40-H/MB-T 'Demolisher': (1) Taricus
UF-HAT-39-B"Vanguard": (1) Khan Boyzitbig

This is mostly so you all know, I'm not dead quite yet. Also I agree with the Radio revison idea, easy communication is vastly more important then being able to find the enemy. Especially since we need to be able to easily communicate where the bleeps on our radar are.

[Light forger]

0 ANY-AG-1939 "Bunny Hop is the Jive!":
UF-APC-39 'Salamander' Pattern A: (0)
UF-APC-39 'Salamander' Pattern B. (13) NUKE9.13, Azzuro, Happerry, Kashyyk, Helmacon, Piratejoe, evictedSaint, 3_14159, NAV, Baffler, Madman198237, Stabby, Lightforger
UF-40-H/MB-T 'Demolisher': (1) Taricus
UF-HAT-39-B"Vanguard": (1) Khan Boyzitbig

[Sensei]

UF-39-APC "Salamander" Pattern B
Based on a new frame, inspired by the Raider, this eight-wheeled all terrain vehicle is designed to carry a squad of infantry, plus support gear (tiger armour & squad weapons for example). The first and last wheels are for power and steering. It is fitted with a turreted AC18, plus coaxial Sorraia. The armour is Medium all round. The vehicle has a hexagonal cross-section, which means the side armour is all sloping. Front armour is similarly constructed. Additionally, it uses one unit of Manganese alloy to improve armour further. It has a rear access ramp, as well as two side doors, all rubber sealed. It is designed to achieve 64km/h on smooth ground, 32km/h on rough, and has a pair of screw propellers to allow  slow  movement across water. It can thus fjord small waterways and swamps and float across larger ones.

Fjord?

Hard: 6
UF-39-APC "Salamander" Pattern B: The Salamander is a large amphibious APC, with a wide body to keep itself stable on the water. It is covered in medium armor, and the body is in a "hexagonal cross-section" shape, which means that any point on its sides or front is either sloping up or down, with the front being long and narrow while the sides are flatter. It has 8 large wheels, the front and rear axles both drive and steer, while the middle two axles are dummies. Water propulsion is from two small propellers. This was a necessary compromise to keep transmission weight down, but land performance isn't amazing. It holds about fourteen soldiers, or a few less if they're bringing heavy weapons and Tiger Armor. Soldiers exit double file through a watertight rear door/ramp and there's a top front crew hatch. It is armed with an AS-AC18 turret and coaxial Sorraia. [5 Ore 3 Oil]

[evictedSaint]

Tigers Roar: (1) evictedSaint
High-Octane Airplane Fuel: (0)

[piratejoe]

Tigers Roar: (2) evictedSaint, Piratejoe
High-Octane Airplane Fuel: (0)