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Total Members Voted: 106

[Madman198237]

3 Give the Axis the RPG28A (3): Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (1): Piratejoe
2 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237

[piratejoe]

3 Give the Axis the RPG28A (3): Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (0):
3 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237, Piratejoe

[stabbymcstabstab]

4 Give the Axis the RPG28A (4): Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13, Stabby
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (0):
3 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237, Piratejoe

[Baffler]

Actually, changed to the RPG. They will have their own cluster munitions in a short time, which are probably in the prototyping phase right now, while man-portable AT weapons on par with the RPG28A didn't start appearing until near the end of the war.

4 Give the Axis the RPG28A (5): Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13, Stabby, Baffler
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (0):
4 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237, Piratejoe

[evictedSaint]

5 Give the Axis the RPG28A (4): Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13, Stabby, evictedSaint
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (0):
4 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237, Piratejoe, Baffler

Going rpg because I don't want to see our firecracker being used to firebomb civilian targets.

[Madman198237]

eS.....it doesn't actually matter. Firebomb is more likely to win than something they already have (I think. I'm not sure when panzerfaust/the other one (which I can almost remember) were developed)

[Baffler]

4 Give the Axis the RPG28A (6): Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13, Stabby, Baffler, evictedSaint
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (0):
4 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237, Piratejoe

[andrea]

you know that in this period EVERYONE in the war bomber civilian targets, and that the allies were the absolute masters of it?
in fact, I think the firebombings on japan caused more casualties than the actual nukes dropped still on japan.

I mean, axis and commies did plenty of atrocities that the allied didn't.
However, firebombing of civilians was quite common.

[Baffler]

eS.....it doesn't actually matter. Firebomb is more likely to win than something they already have (I think. I'm not sure when panzerfaust/the other one (which I can almost remember) were developed)

Panzerfaust and Panzerschrek were both 1943, but the Panzerschreck wasn't especially useful until late 1944. Meanwhile they're set to have their own cluster bombs at the end of this year.

[evictedSaint]

eS.....it doesn't actually matter. Firebomb is more likely to win than something they already have (I think. I'm not sure when panzerfaust/the other one (which I can almost remember) were developed)

Panzerfaust was deployed in 1942, so three years from now.  Plus, our RPG is more highly advanced than the Panzerfaust.

Also, why does wanting a weapon we developed to not be used on civilians "not matter"?  Why does everyone else doing terrible things make it okay for us to do it?  Why are you defending firebombing civilian targets?

[Light forger]

4 Give the Axis the RPG28A (7): Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13, Stabby, Baffler, evictedSaint, Lightforger
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (0):
4 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237, Piratejoe

[andrea]

I am not, what I am sending is that it would be used for firebombing on civilians even if we sent it to allies.I had the impression that you were just being bitter at nazis instead of allies and wouldn't have had objections to sending bombs to USA.
Considering your reply, I suppose I was wrong and I apologize.

[Mulisa]

eS.....it doesn't actually matter. Firebomb is more likely to win than something they already have (I think. I'm not sure when panzerfaust/the other one (which I can almost remember) were developed)

Panzerfaust was developedd in 1942 and deployed in '43. They do not have an RPG.

Our T-33 is also superior to PzIV, so we could offer that as a replacement to their mainline medium tank.

[Powder Miner]

4 Give the Axis the RPG28A (: Taricus, Andrea, Nuke9.13, Stabby, Baffler, evictedSaint, Lightforger, Powder Miner
1 Give the Axis the Tiger Armour (0):
4 Firecracker: RAM, Madman198237, Piratejoe

[evictedSaint]

I am not, what I am sending is that it would be used for firebombing on civilians even if we sent it to allies.I had the impression that you were just being bitter at nazis instead of allies and wouldn't have had objections to sending bombs to USA.
Considering your reply, I suppose I was wrong and I apologize.

Eh...sorry, I guess I am being a bit overly aggressive.  I'm just worried because I get the sense the game is slipping to a war of "the ends justify the means" and I don't want to see Forenia backslide into something terrible.  I like the fact that we're a Republic, we hold freedom in strong regard and have a freedom of speech that we refuse to quash.  I am disappointed we sided with the Axis, but I can accept an "alliance of convenience" and agree that it is the most logical choice - especially since the Research Credit is miles better than the Expense Credit.

And just to be clear, I wouldn't want to send the firecracker to the Allies, either.  I just want Forenia to look back on this time period without being ashamed.