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aTinTeardrop

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Fishing rods
« on: April 29, 2017, 02:07:03 pm »

Simply: will we ever have to produce fishing rods for fishing? It seems to me that we should have to do that.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2017, 02:07:33 pm »

I like the idea of having fishing rods as a requirement or giving a boon to the catch, or even bait, but I can't imagine much more gameplay it would add to DF, as it stands. If Toady does a fishing overhaul or when he starts development on the sailing arc; maybe we'll see things such as deep sea fishing - which might require something like a net or deep sea fishing rods.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 07:13:33 am »

Fishermen that are doing it for a living don't screw around with a pole. Traps and nets are more useful.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 11:38:05 am »

Other ways of catching fish would be interesting. I don't know exactly how the game handles it now, but catching fish with your bare hands could of course be a thing as well; as a perhaps dangerous way to catch fish before you've gained the equipment needed.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 11:44:52 am »

Other ways of catching fish would be interesting. I don't know exactly how the game handles it now, but catching fish with your bare hands could of course be a thing as well; as a perhaps dangerous way to catch fish before you've gained the equipment needed.

They dangle their beards into the water.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2017, 03:39:54 pm »

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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2017, 10:36:42 pm »

Other ways of catching fish would be interesting. I don't know exactly how the game handles it now, but catching fish with your bare hands could of course be a thing as well; as a perhaps dangerous way to catch fish before you've gained the equipment needed.

Tickling trout isn't dangerous, just time-consuming.

I always assumed they caught them like bears catch salmon in the North American continent on David Attenborough. And the bear in the Disney movie Brave.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2017, 03:43:39 pm »

Tools for certain jobs in general would be pretty nice.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2017, 07:48:48 pm »

Tickling trout isn't dangerous, just time-consuming.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2017, 08:26:48 pm »

DF is culturally non specific, so fishing could be done with poles, nets, spears, dynamite, ect. I think that its abstracted that a dorf has a stick and some beard hair on one end or a stick with points on one end (and endless martial trances) stabbing into the water.

Tools for jobs are obviously in the works. You at least need a sharp object to craft in Adv mode.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2017, 11:55:37 am »

How about...

1. No Tool = Low chance of catching one fish
2. Fishing Pole/Spear = Good chance of catching one fish, chance of breaking based on craftsdwarfship x size of fish
3. Net = chance of catching multiple fish, subject to wear & tear.
4. Trap = Building, req. Fishing labor, catches one fish at a time without consuming a dwarf's time beyond constructing/emptying.
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2017, 01:40:33 pm »

How about...

1. No Tool = Low chance of catching one fish
2. Fishing Pole/Spear = Good chance of catching one fish, chance of breaking based on craftsdwarfship x size of fish
3. Net = chance of catching multiple fish, subject to wear & tear.
4. Trap = Building, req. Fishing labor, catches one fish at a time without consuming a dwarf's time beyond constructing/emptying.

One problem, skill>tools in DF, so tools would only exacerbate the pre-existing problem of dwarves overfishing every source of water until they are exhausted.  If Toady ever decides to do a re-work of skill usage to require tools however, that would be good.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2017, 01:42:45 pm by NullForceOmega »
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Re: Fishing rods
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 09:42:34 am »

How about...

1. No Tool = Low chance of catching one fish
2. Fishing Pole/Spear = Good chance of catching one fish, chance of breaking based on craftsdwarfship x size of fish
3. Net = chance of catching multiple fish, subject to wear & tear.
4. Trap = Building, req. Fishing labor, catches one fish at a time without consuming a dwarf's time beyond constructing/emptying.

Good list.

To this we could add emptying ponds.
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