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Author Topic: Ballista discussion/experimentation/stuff. (Is this the right place?)  (Read 4240 times)

Dunamisdeos

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Silver for bolts is outdated after nerf. Sharpness is now very important for piercing armor.

They don't do blunt damage anymore?
Ballista arrows were changed to edged damage in 40.15.

Also, goblins have been fixed to actually bring complete sets of armor.

I'm pretty sure the projectiles can be swatted out of the air, too. (Or at least Clowns can do it.)

Whoa whoa whoa.

Whoa.

I didn't know this. You can swat projectiles out of the air?
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yeah, at least with normal bolts and arrows that happens, I think it is the projectile equivalent of parrying. Im not sure weather you can do it on purpose in adv. mode though.
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I've seen miners bat arrows and bolts out of the air with their picks and legendary mining skills, back as far as at least .34.x.  No idea if they can do that with ballista ammo though.
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can ballistas work while they are submerged in liquid?
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Maybe in theory, but
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If you have your enemies walk down a narrow path with a ballista well back on one end and the magma fall a few horizontal urists in front of it where it won't spill into the ballista's location, I'd imagine you could make flaming ballista bolts. That'd be pretty cool... Hmm. How OP do you think it would be to have stone ballista bolts? Then you can make lignite ones. >:3
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Yeah, so a ballista fires down a narrow bridge straddling a very deep chasm forcing the missile to hit or a dodge into the abyss, also the ballista missile flies through a magmafall. Also lignite. Also adamantine.

Damn I have to build an entire fort to test this concept now.
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I'm not sure if objects in flight can catch fire.

IIRC, minecarts can't, although maybe that was just for magmafalls. Flowing magma across the ground might work.
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Ballista arrows fly through liquid (or at least water) without any problem. You can set up a ballista to fire at the submerged base of cavern trees to disintegrate the trees by setting up the ballista, dig a drain with an off map fortification, and then carve a fortification to the lake the tree ais in. Keep firing arrows through the fortification until the tree is gone.
You may want to use a drawbridge to block the fortification when done, both to stop FPS draining flowing water and to stop critters from getting through the fortifications into the innards of your fortress.
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Re: Ballista discussion/experimentation/stuff. (Is this the right place?)
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2017, 09:58:00 am »

But will they catch fire?


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Re: Ballista discussion/experimentation/stuff. (Is this the right place?)
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2017, 10:24:55 am »

I've never seen any of the ballista arrows I've fired through water catch fire ;)
Ballista arrows fired at camping fire based clowns didn't catch fire either.

Seriously though, it might not have been tested, so why don't you do so and report back? A tricky part is to make sure the fired arrow exits the magma at the other side where their potentially fiery nature might have some effect (I'm fairly sure they'll catch fire if they slam into a wall and falls down, as long as they don't fall on SMR, as they'd be annihilated by the SMR in that case). A magma fall isn't too hard to set up, but a flow requires more work (and begs the silly question of why you're not using the magma directly, but the obvious answer would be "because it's possible to do it in a more complex way").
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Re: Ballista discussion/experimentation/stuff. (Is this the right place?)
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2017, 11:13:48 am »

Why not build a nether cap ballista and pour magma over it when it's loaded, then drain the magma and fire the bolt?
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Re: Ballista discussion/experimentation/stuff. (Is this the right place?)
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2017, 03:35:50 pm »

Why not build a nether cap ballista and pour magma over it when it's loaded, then drain the magma and fire the bolt?
'Cause the operator won't go near it while it's on fire?
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Re: Ballista discussion/experimentation/stuff. (Is this the right place?)
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2017, 04:15:03 pm »

I myself have very little experience with handling magma, and I haven't even breached the caverns in my current fort, BUT I do have a ballista setup. So when my fort gets a little further along I might try this ;)
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Re: Ballista discussion/experimentation/stuff. (Is this the right place?)
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2017, 06:03:29 pm »

Why not build a nether cap ballista and pour magma over it when it's loaded, then drain the magma and fire the bolt?
'Cause the operator won't go near it while it's on fire?
Doesn't that only go for the workshop, and not the loaded bolt? Nether caps don't burn. Equip your dwarves with nether cap shields to block dragon fire.
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