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[Teneb]

Uh, then where does the money go? Directly to valve's hoard?

It goes to the DLC fairy. It has accounts on the Cayman Isles.

[Egan_BW]

I prefer to think that WB are simply paying tribute to the great GabeN.

[umiman]

Clearly they make an altar to the DLC gods; Greid, Avareese, and Gullarble.

[Damiac]

Hey, if collecting money and giving 70% of it for one particular dead guy is OK, why not keep going along those same lines?

How about some 10$ ribbons you can buy in different colors? They even show up on your character! And $2 from each purchase actually goes to charity!  Who cares if WB is pocketing tons of money that was intended to help a good cause, at least those good causes are getting some of it, right?  At least other people will see those in game ribbons, maybe they'll buy some too!

And if WB wants to just keep the whole 10$ if donating a small piece of it wouldn't be completely convenient, that's understandable, right?

It's not as if people have limited amounts of money to spend or donate, and it's certainly not as if the charitable organization would have been helped more by getting all of that donation, rather than just 20% of it.

That's my sarcastic take on this whole matter. 

[ZeroGravitas]

Hey, if collecting money and giving 70% of it for one particular dead guy is OK, why not keep going along those same lines?

How about some 10$ ribbons you can buy in different colors? They even show up on your character! And $2 from each purchase actually goes to charity!  Who cares if WB is pocketing tons of money that was intended to help a good cause, at least those good causes are getting some of it, right?  At least other people will see those in game ribbons, maybe they'll buy some too!

And if WB wants to just keep the whole 10$ if donating a small piece of it wouldn't be completely convenient, that's understandable, right?

It's not as if people have limited amounts of money to spend or donate, and it's certainly not as if the charitable organization would have been helped more by getting all of that donation, rather than just 20% of it.

That's my sarcastic take on this whole matter.

personally i wouldn't buy such a ribbon

then again hypotheticals that have little connection to reality have never really made sense to me

[Damiac]

The parallel I was trying to draw is the company would be doing a nominally good thing (Raising awareness of a bad thing, raising money to make it less bad) but in doing so actually drawing money away from the charity, because people generally have only a certain amount of money to donate to good causes.

So by making themselves a middleman who takes a significant chunk, they're taking a good portion of those people's "Charity budget" directly for themselves.

The fact that they pocket 100% of the donation from non US citizens, yet still plan to allow them to make the 'donation' takes it from "Well meaning but possibly harmful" to "Shameless cash grab"

I admit, my analogy might not be perfect... or even decent... but I think it's... something.  I guess you see why I tend to stick with sarcasm.

[ZeroGravitas]

The parallel I was trying to draw is the company would be doing a nominally good thing (Raising awareness of a bad thing, raising money to make it less bad) but in doing so actually drawing money away from the charity, because people generally have only a certain amount of money to donate to good causes.

So by making themselves a middleman who takes a significant chunk, they're taking a good portion of those people's "Charity budget" directly for themselves.

The fact that they pocket 100% of the donation from non US citizens, yet still plan to allow them to make the 'donation' takes it from "Well meaning but possibly harmful" to "Shameless cash grab"

I admit, my analogy might not be perfect... or even decent... but I think it's... something.  I guess you see why I tend to stick with sarcasm.

nothing is stopping people from writing checks to the family if that's what they want to do.

even a website like gofundme that explicitly runs charity campaigns takes an 8% cut. it's not like processing payments and managing money is free.

[Aklyon]

The parallel I was trying to draw is the company would be doing a nominally good thing (Raising awareness of a bad thing, raising money to make it less bad) but in doing so actually drawing money away from the charity, because people generally have only a certain amount of money to donate to good causes.

So by making themselves a middleman who takes a significant chunk, they're taking a good portion of those people's "Charity budget" directly for themselves.

The fact that they pocket 100% of the donation from non US citizens, yet still plan to allow them to make the 'donation' takes it from "Well meaning but possibly harmful" to "Shameless cash grab"

I admit, my analogy might not be perfect... or even decent... but I think it's... something.  I guess you see why I tend to stick with sarcasm.

nothing is stopping people from writing checks to the family if that's what they want to do.

even a website like gofundme that explicitly runs charity campaigns takes an 8% cut. it's not like processing payments and managing money is free.

Theres a difference between 'our cut to keep the site running' and this, though.

[ZeroGravitas]

The parallel I was trying to draw is the company would be doing a nominally good thing (Raising awareness of a bad thing, raising money to make it less bad) but in doing so actually drawing money away from the charity, because people generally have only a certain amount of money to donate to good causes.

So by making themselves a middleman who takes a significant chunk, they're taking a good portion of those people's "Charity budget" directly for themselves.

The fact that they pocket 100% of the donation from non US citizens, yet still plan to allow them to make the 'donation' takes it from "Well meaning but possibly harmful" to "Shameless cash grab"

I admit, my analogy might not be perfect... or even decent... but I think it's... something.  I guess you see why I tend to stick with sarcasm.

nothing is stopping people from writing checks to the family if that's what they want to do.

even a website like gofundme that explicitly runs charity campaigns takes an 8% cut. it's not like processing payments and managing money is free.

Theres a difference between 'our cut to keep the site running' and this, though.

yes - the difference is that we know that the family will get 100% of the proceeds from sales in 44 US states. we don't know about 6 of the states or overseas sales, except that they claim they won't profit from them. there is also a youcaring page for direct donations.

[ThtblovesDF]

*from specific stores in these specific states.

Or?

Anyway, that entire affair has turned me greatly off buying the game.

[Teneb]

yes - the difference is that we know that the family will get 100% of the proceeds from sales in 44 US states. we don't know about 6 of the states or overseas sales, except that they claim they won't profit from them. there is also a youcaring page for direct donations.

Nope. The family gets 70% in those 44 states. The thing about charity is that it's kind of a non-profit deal. The moment you start profiting from charity, something is terribly wrong.

Further: The disclaimer that the 6 US states + everywhere else in existence won't actually contribute any money to the charity, but rather to WB's bank account, isn't exactly made obvious either. They did attempt to obfuscate that information, which adds another layer of scum to it.

[Chiefwaffles]

Valve takes a 30% cut.

Further: The disclaimer that the 6 US states + everywhere else in existence won't actually contribute any money to the charity, but rather to WB's bank account, isn't exactly made obvious either. They did attempt to obfuscate that information, which adds another layer of scum to it.

"They didn't tell us immediately that they're good, which makes them evil!"
EDIT: Misread this, assumed you were talking about something else.
So instead:

"Warner Bros. insists it won't profit from the Shadow of War Forthog Orc-Slayer DLC"
Seems to be this quote, specifically:

"Neither Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment nor Monolith Productions will profit from any sales of the Forthog Orc-Slayer DLC regardless of the territory in which that DLC is sold."

Just relevant. I have no idea why they'd state that the money would only go to the family in most of America earlier if this is the case, but this does seem to be a pretty definitive statement. Make of it what you will.

[forsaken1111]

Yep. They've said they will not be taking any profits from this. period. I wonder where the rest of the money goes though..

[Teneb]

Valve takes a 30% cut.

Further: The disclaimer that the 6 US states + everywhere else in existence won't actually contribute any money to the charity, but rather to WB's bank account, isn't exactly made obvious either. They did attempt to obfuscate that information, which adds another layer of scum to it.

"They didn't tell us immediately that they're good, which makes them evil!"
EDIT: Misread this, assumed you were talking about something else.
So instead:

"Warner Bros. insists it won't profit from the Shadow of War Forthog Orc-Slayer DLC"
Seems to be this quote, specifically:

"Neither Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment nor Monolith Productions will profit from any sales of the Forthog Orc-Slayer DLC regardless of the territory in which that DLC is sold."

Just relevant. I have no idea why they'd state that the money would only go to the family in most of America earlier if this is the case, but this does seem to be a pretty definitive statement. Make of it what you will.

In this case it raises questions: if they are not profiting from this, and they have confirmed in twitter that the money will not go to family... where is it going?

Ninja'd

[Folly]

1 month until SoW release date.

I bought SoM a while back but never got around to playing it...when SoW was announced I resolved to play SoM before SoW's release. How much time should I leave myself to play SoM?