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[Mediterraneo]

Rhenaya's Drow mod, updated for 44.12

Download the mod here

beta 0.9.0 is out! "Rushed Creatures Edition"

As Arkenor pointed out (thanks) some creatures were causing duplication bugs with creatures in other mods using Rhenaya's old files (Masterwork, to be specific). Changing the creatures names is going to prevent further duplications without asking other modders to touch their files.

I took this as a chance to revamp the creatures: now we have three kinds of rothen and three kinds of lizard where there was one, and I added a first draft of the Shriekers, Sword Spider and Cavvekan pets.

I added some reaction to roduce armor in full sets - something to help lazy players to inmerse themselves in the luxury-used drow way of doing things, relatively free of micromanagement when it is not needed.
But this is a rushed edition: I had 'almost ready' things in the works I talked about in a forum post, I felt to share them as they are as a start, there will be more developed versions of this.

Spoiler: Mod's features, in Rhenaya's own words (click to show/hide)

Because i kind of focus on that mod i make a new thread for it without the other stuff:

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2176

This mode includes a standalone playable drow race.
On embark you can choose them too (just like changing through dwarf civs in vanilla, it adds occasional drow civs).


Features:
* 1 new playable entity of drows: underground dwelling dark elves
* 1 new fearsome underground entity: the driders, half drow half spider
* 4 new domestic animals for your drow use: rothe (cattle), giant drowspider (hunting trainable), drowspider (vermin hunter) and giant lizards (war trainable)
* 7 new plants: fire lichen (expensive wine and powder), blue lichen (standard wine), white lichen (clothing), cave barley (standard powder and cheap "slave" drink), cave sugar beet (drink, sugar and syrup), cave strawberry (sweetwine and syrup), poison cup (dont eat it!)
* full set of drow equipment, including parry offhand weapons and the famous drow piwafi
* 2 new metals: mithril and mithral

The drow are evil like goblins and as enemys they mostly feel like them too, but the drow have high end weapons in steel just as dwarves, also beware the females, they are slightly bigger and stronger than the average male drow.
Drider use metal armors, a larger array of weapons and are considerable bigger than the known subterran civs and if you have some on your site: fun ensues!

The Drow civ has many positions:
Grand Matriarch (like Queen, female only)
High Priestess (female only, Matriarchs military officer)
Priestesses (female only, various officers under the high priestess)
Captains (can also be males, more officers under the priestesses)

Site Specific:
Expedition Leader, this is the first noble you will encounter just as with the dwarfs: he or she is on outpost embark site (handels diplomats and work complaints)
House Overseer, after the Outpost grows into a house the expedition leader will become this (main jobs diplomats until the bigger nobles arrives and work complaints)
House Administrator, a merged form of the bookkeeper and manager in one entity, apointable by the player
House Broker, just like normal broker
House Cleric, just like the chief medical dwarf, but also has a squad for law enforcement to keep your fellow drow in place (female only)
House Priestess, this is the military officer inside your outpost (female only)
House Captains, if you need more squads, they will lead them
House Guard Captain, law enforcement for the man (male only!)

Nobles:
Tiny House Matriarch, she will join your fortress rather early, you dont need as much stuff as you would need with the dwarfs, but she doesnt also need much of office or demands
Small House Matriarch, Your site will now be known as "small house"
House Matriarch, after you develop she will maybe get to be no longer a small house matrairch and considered a normal one,
Big House Matriarch, even more wealth has spread.
Great House Matriarch, even greater wealth and strength, you are now very near to attract the grand matriarch herself!

Subnobles:
Weaponmaster, any House Matriarch will appoint a weaponmaster, he acts like the royal guards and has a squad too, and handels executions. basicly a mix of the champion and hammerer.
Tax Collector, the Weaponmaster will not only make the internal secure for the House Matriarch, he will also look into getting economic wealth, so he will appoint the tax collector.
Dungeon Master, just like Dwarfs, Drow love exotic animals, so the nobles will appoint the appropiate dungeon master too.


Drow use the basic elfen language, but unlike their treehugging cousins, they use the darker and evil side of the word spectrum.

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Spoiler: Why is Rhenaya's mod in my thread? (click to show/hide)

 Due to the reasons explained here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=70258.msg4122522#msg4122522
Rhenaya's Drow mod wasn't being updated anymore. I'm talking of this mod: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=70258.0

Due to this thread's idea: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=161028.msg7209543#msg7209543
of recovering old mods not updated anymore I started this, both as a way to learn modding and as a way to make Rhenaya's marvelous work more easily available to the community even in the new versions of the game.

All of the creative work here is Rhenaya's, I'm just updating it to the new version, and I wouldn't mind if other people would work on these same files in some other ways.

Spoiler: Credits (click to show/hide)

This mod is Rhenaya's work, with me just updating it to the latest Dwarf Fortress versions, even if I am starting to add and tweak things.
Some addition includes a version of reactions seen here on the forum and on Meph's Masterwork as well as some other mod around.
The graphic part of the mod, too, is in debt in various ways with Meph's work - and Obsidian Soul's and Denzi's though it - and with Vordak, more on that in the readme.
This mod's folder still includes Chariot and Doctor_Nic's 16x16 tilesets as a variant option too.
I also have to thank Kat, Manu_G and SQman for their feedback, corrections and general help at various time in this forum,
as well as all the members of the modding community, for teaching, helping and stimulating me.

[Shub-Nullgurath]

Oh, I didn't realise that about Rhenaya, that's a real shame.

I was hoping to take a look at their stuff to include in my Underdark mod. Do you have a download for it?

[Mediterraneo]

Hello Shub-Nullgurath,

The link from which I took the files I worked on is this, at the DFFD: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=2176
It is written for the then latest version, 34.11. "It's the same files" of my work, what I had to rewrite is detailed in my "Med's readme". Everything I touched is marked clearly as so in my upload.
Those files include sprites from other authors, I'm trying to contact them too. Rhenaya's thread about this indicated Chariot (he is a user here, last active 19 of march CY) and Doctror_Nic and Flying Squirrel (a user here, last active 1 of april CY) posted graphical things on the same thread, I noticed them while adding the link to her original thread here, I was able to send a PM to two of them, not to Doctor_Nic yet, I'm still looking for him.

This is Rhenaya's mods page there: http://dffd.bay12games.com/who.php?id=554

To state it clearly: her work is her own, and if it is available to the community, please be welcome to use it without asking me.
I have no ties to her, nor any claim on her work.
My work - on this files or otherwise, and as small as some rewriting here and there may be- is available for unrestricted use within the community too, for as long as it is stays free and is not included in non-free products and packages, even if I get unactive and unreachable.
Take it, use it, cut it, build it.
My objective is making things easily available to everyone who wants them.

On shared use: I got to Rhenaya's work following searches on drow mods around. Meph's Masterwork mod for a while included these guys too, I think it was back to when Rhenaya updated them regularily but I may be wrong on this.
He may have news, ideas or more recent version of the files too.

Cheers, and keep up with your underdark work!

[Shub-Nullgurath]

I dropped you a message. If you've got a Discord jump in the channel in my signature.

[Kat]

Hello there, I'm glad someone has decided to try and update Rhen's drows for the latest version of DF.
I was trying to update things myself at the weekend, using elements from the elf profile to fill in the blanks that were needed, and had some success, after reading some of your posts.
I couldn't get the drow outcasts entity to work though, it crashed for some reason, so I had to cut them from the modded raws that I am using, to regain familiarity with DF after not playing it for a couple years.
Something that I've noticed, but which I've read seems to be an issue with the latest version of DF in general, was that I can't butcher goblins, or other sapient creatures? That was a bit of a surprise - in previous versions of Rhen's drow mod, I had a tendency to build quite the goblin leather industry and goblin bone craft industry.
Still getting used to things, but will keep an eye on this, to see how it develops.


by the way, you haven't included your latest link to your work, this one: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12819

[Rekov]

OMG I love you for doing this!

[Mediterraneo]

Thanks Rekov!

Take also note of Shub-Nullgurath's work on the Underdark, I think he is working on his own drows too in these days.

[Rekov]

He did mention civs. A long time ago I thought about creating an updated drow tileset but I'm such a bad pixel artist that I didn't get very far. I might give that another shot.

[vjmdhzgr]

Hello there, I'm glad someone has decided to try and update Rhen's drows for the latest version of DF.
I was trying to update things myself at the weekend, using elements from the elf profile to fill in the blanks that were needed, and had some success, after reading some of your posts.
I couldn't get the drow outcasts entity to work though, it crashed for some reason, so I had to cut them from the modded raws that I am using, to regain familiarity with DF after not playing it for a couple years.
Something that I've noticed, but which I've read seems to be an issue with the latest version of DF in general, was that I can't butcher goblins, or other sapient creatures? That was a bit of a surprise - in previous versions of Rhen's drow mod, I had a tendency to build quite the goblin leather industry and goblin bone craft industry.
Still getting used to things, but will keep an eye on this, to see how it develops.


by the way, you haven't included your latest link to your work, this one: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12819

I think version 0.40 accidentally broke butchering intelligent creatures in fortress mode. Toady knows of the problem, but doesn't even know how he caused it and since it's not something you can do in vanilla he hasn't put much effort into figuring out how to fix it.

[Mediterraneo]

Hello there, I'm glad someone has decided to try and update Rhen's drows for the latest version of DF.
I was trying to update things myself at the weekend, using elements from the elf profile to fill in the blanks that were needed, and had some success, after reading some of your posts.
I couldn't get the drow outcasts entity to work though, it crashed for some reason, so I had to cut them from the modded raws that I am using, to regain familiarity with DF after not playing it for a couple years.
Something that I've noticed, but which I've read seems to be an issue with the latest version of DF in general, was that I can't butcher goblins, or other sapient creatures? That was a bit of a surprise - in previous versions of Rhen's drow mod, I had a tendency to build quite the goblin leather industry and goblin bone craft industry.
Still getting used to things, but will keep an eye on this, to see how it develops.


by the way, you haven't included your latest link to your work, this one: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12819

Hello there, thank you for pointing out the missing link!
I am not playing the mod enough I think, I didn't meet the deep drow yet, but I don't have crashes with them: are you using "my" file or are you modifying the original along the same lines?
On the goblin-butchering thing, I am not aware of workarounds to have it working: I'll add them to the files if I find out how.

On the scope of the project: don't expect much development on my part, I will go with the time I have available and as a total amateur.
I do not claim exclusivity on what I see as Rhenaya's work though: feel free to add, improve, suggest, propose changes to the files, to include in "my" pack or in your own version of it.

[Kat]

are you using "my" file or are you modifying the original along the same lines?

Modifying the originals, along similar lines. I saw that you got the drows to work, by changing their default site from dark fortress to detailed cave, so I put that into the things I was working with, and it runs fine.

but the odd thing I found was that the drow outcasts entity file would crash dwarf fortress when attempting to generate a new world. Errorlog didn't show anything though, so I was baffled as to why it was happening, so I removed it from the entity file, and it works.


Something else I did, was that I made at least one type of clothing for each body part [FORCED] rather than being [COMMON] or [UNCOMMON], because in several worlds that I generated, I found that the drow civilisation that I had, did not have the ability to make various bits of clothing - e.g. one world, i could not make anything other than war boots as footwear, instead of war boots (which are armour), socks, and normal boots.

[Mediterraneo]

That migh be a good idea, if problems arise with clothes.

On the non-working parts:
what worked to me was trying to re-write things "from scratch", or at least from outside the 34.11 environment of the mod.
I started with taking working bits -say, a layer bound animalmen entity from the vanilla files - and started modifying them in blocks.
Say, the values, or all the weapons, or all the jobs, or something. Each time generating a world to control if some error was there, "if it stopped working".
Another place to find errors would be comparing the relevant parts of the 43.05 and the 34.11 vanilla objects most similars to the ones you want to design and comparing it with some online diff checker - the first ones from googling will be good enough and free.
And it will tell you what tags you should study firsts in the wiki, to understand what changed and what needs to change in turn.

I hope this helps, I will take note of the clothes thing in next versions of this.


PS: Sorry for that "same lines", I did mean something like your "similar lines", a similar intent, a near idea, not anything - there was no intention of subtext there.

[Dark Archon]

For some reason, drow civs won't appear in the game: they have extremely low population, or have fallen. What may cause it?

[ManuG]

Are they around when you set the world generation's end to 25 years or so? Could be, that they don't have enough children to keep up with other races and get overrun i guess...

[Dark Archon]

Are they around when you set the world generation's end to 25 years or so? Could be, that they don't have enough children to keep up with other races and get overrun i guess...

Yes, they exist in the history, but just die out. How do you make them have more babies, like normal elves do?