@helmacon: I'm unsure about that. If we get a 1 on that we may just be giving up the desert when there was a chance
Though maybe we can roll normally and not at a disadvantage? I'm not particularly in the mood to go looking for precedence, but I'm somewhat certain that evicted only rolls orders at a disadvantage when they're using equipment in a purpose not intended for by the equipment.
I am not convinced that there is a benefit to be gained from it within the game's structure. If they come out with something big and new then they can probably overwhelm whatever defences we build with our current designs. If I wanted to pull something special I would abandon the seas and side-corridors and just push everything down the middle for a quick win. But I don't personally want that.
It has very real and very important consequences and has killed a great many people. I am right to demand that you recant your lies about me. It would be evil of me to just ignore this sort of treatment. I like to think that I would do the same if you were mistreating someone else in the same way.
In the above quote RAM actually seriously compares my arguing with actual serious real life cases of slander severe enough to be labeled "killing people" and... well. It's actually pretty funny, this quote. I'd recommend reading this one. Bonus points for irony.
I am not wrong, as evidenced by your lack of evidence and reasoning.
True enough, I did not provide justification for this. I ought to have, it is a serious issue and people ought to be warned. I am capable of admitting when I am wrong.
Basically, it is a matter of isolation. Someone is consistently opposed in minor ways that seem innocuous individually but their consistency results in a general pattern of that being "okay" and "normal". People will just idly stand by while someone is consistently belittled, derided, and dismissed. A pattern grown of their opinion being irrelevant. In time they are completely ignored. They have nobody to turn to, or at least they believe as much due to the lack of evidence to the contrary, their enemies have many supporters, or at least appear to do so, and they have no means of expressing themselves. Resulting a great sense of hopelessness and a belief that, should they wish to be noticed, it will require something extreme, and that they will achieve nothing with their current lot. It is a dense feeling of hopelessness and a need to do foolish things in order to get attention, or to just run away from everything. It is an extremely strong impulse towards suicide, and I am extremely confident that it has been used as a murder weapon. Now I do not honestly believe that Chiefwaffles understands this. I am not accusing them of being a murderer. But I would not be surprised of they have worked with people who have become more withdrawn as they interact... However I am often surprised by humanity's lack of awareness. It would not surprise me if many people honestly believe that a suicide cannot be a murder. I even recall people who think that whistle-blowers are cowards...
But the fact is that this is an isolation tactic, and that isolation tactics are lethal.
Thankyou for the commentary, but I have a legitimate problem. I am poor at reading people so I have to consider all possibilities.
1: Chiefwaffles honestly believes this stuff: I honestly wish to help them.
2: Chiefwaffles is actually correct: I would dearly like an explanation that I could learn from rather than just endless insults.
3: Chiefwaffles is a troll or sociopath who is trying to harm others for fun or basically murder people in order to benefit their own standing: I legitimately need to defend myself and should help others.
Now my main problem is that regardless of which or how many of these are true, the effects of 3 are active.
The above one is actually pretty great. Note the bottom part - "the effects of 3 are active." That's RAM's fancy little way of literally calling me a "troll or sociopath." For disagreeing with him in a forum game. Great, huh?
You are not reading that correctly. The words "effects of" may be small but they are very important. I am saying that regardless of the cause of your actions, the outcome is consistent with your being a troll or sociopath. I listed three ways that that destination could be reached, two of them are not what you incorrectly claim I called you. Are you capable of admitting when you are wrong?
And then we have this mess. Two things are required:
1: Actually read what is written.
2: Check the timestamps.
In Which RAM Pretends Crystalworks Was His Idea, When He Argued Against The Crystalworks
Let's go for one last quote, in which RAM makes a bold-faced lie:
The reason that we won was my idea of a large-project oriented crystalworks. We got cheap guns and cheap ships. Those cheap ships made the turn for us. The seas are a massive power-factor and if Moskurg focuses on land then they will massively regret the sea advantage. The cheap cannons held our advantage. The protector, while useful, really wasn't a factor.
Note how the Crystalworks was my design.
The crystalworks came after my steamworks. Which would have been better on account of stacking with the extra +1 from the mountains, and we could have invested in metals as nice as the crystals are, while using the forming ability of crystals. But that is unimportant. I never claimed to design the crystalworks, and I do not wish to lay such a claim. What I claimed was "a large-project oriented crystalworks". Note how the adjective there denotes a specific instance?
Now comes the time to check timestamps...
Unless you have some clear idea as to how to reduce the expense, such as ... making a giant crystalworks to reduce the effect of volume on expense
Revision: Crystalworks Mk2
According to our Crystalworks engineers, the scale of the designs such as the Steam Engine (and now the IDE) as well as the AS-LFV-1 are simply too great to benefit from the cost reduction the Crystalworks provides.
I had the idea first. And I had the idea recently enough to reasonably expect inspiration, and the post was edited late enough that it could well have been printed up over hours. Granted, ti is entirely possible that Chiefwaffles came up with it independently, but it was still an idea that I had. And I had no problem with letting Chiefwaffles print it up. I just kind of wish that it hadn't ended up being so overambitious. No, we are not getting a hard-counter shield that stops antimagic attacks from hitting us as a minor part of a revision. So i came up with a counter proposal that focused on making nice curves instead and mildly advocated it. Fortunately the antiantimagic shield part was ignored.
Oh, and just to be clear, RAM can probably argue that I'm "personally attacking" him too. But I stand by my statements involving him using unfounded assumptions. And that's not quite the same as him "not really" but actually calling me a sociopath, is it?
I would argue that you made frequent personal attacks long before I did so, and my personal attacks are defensive in nature, simply identifying dangerous patterns to your behaviour. I don't really need to go back through the timestamps to see when you first started accusing me of making things up just to insult your ideas due to personal bias do I?
As for being a sociopath? I am referring to the very high probability that you are a sociopath based upon evidence. Note that you may well not be aware of it if you are, and it is not so much of an insult as people believe. I myself don't conform well to human standards. It just represents someone who is very dangerous. I strongly suggest that you investigate your own mind and attempt to determine exactly what your own nature is, it can be a very useful thing to know. Your arguing style is extremely manipulative and yet extremely lacking in data or justification chains. It certainly appears as though you are aiming for social domination with no regard for the harm that may be caused in doing so. Consider this: If I were to be banned from this forum as a result of your conduct, you would most likely feel pride at your actions being consequential and guilt at causing loss, joy in being rid of me and concern for my loss. To what proportion do you suppose you would feel these things? Don't feel the need to respond to that, the answer is for your own consideration.
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