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[Chiefwaffles]

We're not showing how to create crystal weapons and he like - only to maintain them. The one thing we're teaching him is the dogwood wand creation which isn't exactly a valuable secret.
Anything else we can just have the accompanying apprentice (separate from Robison) do for him.

And the academy is more-so how to not be awful at magic. I think we're agree on the academy though?


Side note, I'm loving the cultural identity we've created so far. Cannon artillery? (In progress) steam boats? Mathemagics?
It's just awesome.

[Chiefwaffles]

Also, in the future, let's respond in kind:
Future Design: CS1-I "Terror" Incendiary Shells
Our mathematicians have thought: What if you could easily make fire without magic? After intense sessions of study and design, they've come up with a solution: Incendiary rounds.
The new shell foregoes our usual flaw of a dependence on magic. Simply load the shell into an HCx-E and fire!

As the shell approaches its target, one of two things will happen: The impact will trigger a simplistic ignition mechanism inside the shell and it'll disperse a payload of flaming oil, showing throws filthy Moskurgians how to properly use fire.

Or, if the shell hits an active magic field such as a wizard casting a spell, small crystals based off of the design of the Anti-magic bomb will break up, in doing so igniting the payload. The range of the anti-magic crystals ensures that the shells won't disperse too soon. Once this happens, huge swaths of land will be engulfed by fire coming down from the sky.


Future Revision/Design: CS1-E "Annihilator" Explosive Shells
After finishing the concept for the CS1-I, our mathematicians decided to say "screw it" and make a shell reliant on magic. Consequently, this was a simpler design. What if instead of relying on enemy magic to trigger anti-magic crystals, we trigger it ourselves?
"Charging" the crystals is a simple process easily taught to even apprentices failing in the Academy. The mage travels a regulated amount of energy into the crystal. Once this happens, the crystal becomes unstable and is essentially a ticking time bomb, though impacts reliably trigger the crystal as well.

After the crystal is triggered - either through time or impact - it'll releas a huge explosion dwarfing the Anti-magic bomb. The magical energy in the shell is mathematically optimized to all release at once in this devastating explosion rivaling a fireball.


(CS: Cannon Shell)

[VoidSlayer]

HC1-E Mobile
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Your HC1-E's currently retreat at the same pace Moskurgs front line advances.  If they develop faster troops or equipment, this design would be beneficial.  At the moment I cannot see any application for this carriage beyond eventually making a tank.

You do not see the advantage of retreating faster then them with the ability to almost instantly fire from the new position when we have superior range, so that we can always be hitting them but they can never hit us?

[Roboson]

HC1-E Mobile
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Your HC1-E's currently retreat at the same pace Moskurgs front line advances.  If they develop faster troops or equipment, this design would be beneficial.  At the moment I cannot see any application for this carriage beyond eventually making a tank.

You do not see the advantage of retreating faster then them with the ability to almost instantly fire from the new position when we have superior range, so that we can always be hitting them but they can never hit us?

The problem is, they always hit us. It doesn't matter if we're moving or if we're just sitting there or if we're invisible or even if we're almost invincible, they still hit us. They can hit a fly at 800 meters with a ballista because of that starting spell.

[VoidSlayer]

HC1-E Mobile
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Your HC1-E's currently retreat at the same pace Moskurgs front line advances.  If they develop faster troops or equipment, this design would be beneficial.  At the moment I cannot see any application for this carriage beyond eventually making a tank.

You do not see the advantage of retreating faster then them with the ability to almost instantly fire from the new position when we have superior range, so that we can always be hitting them but they can never hit us?

The problem is, they always hit us. It doesn't matter if we're moving or if we're just sitting there or if we're invisible or even if we're almost invincible, they still hit us. They can hit a fly at 800 meters with a ballista because of that starting spell.

That is why we never stay in range.  The instant we see them moving up we retreat.  Then keep shelling them.

Also we do not know about the bolded part yet, we haven't tried an armored approach.  Our personal armor defeats most arrows even with their spell.  We also have never hidden our people.

[Andres]

Perhaps we should make our Tower of Frost more potent? Right now, Moskurg is getting debuffed because of it, which is fine, but insufficient. We should make our Tower of Frost generate such cold that they would be unable to survive without superior Arstotzkan heat retention techniques. This would counter all their ground efforts as they wouldn't even be able to survive the environment they're trying to fight in. It's also a pre-existing technology and an ultimately simple modification.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[10ebbor10]

Also we do not know about the bolded part yet, we haven't tried an armored approach.  Our personal armor defeats most arrows even with their spell.  We also have never hidden our people.

We absolutely know both.

There are frequent references to arrows going through eyeslits, and we had that Mist for a long time. During the time where it was effective, Moskurgians could perfectly well utilize their spells to snipe people inside the magic mist.

[VoidSlayer]

If we want more HC1-E's why not use crystals in the manufacturing process?

Crystal molds for the cannons, crystal hand machining tools (since they are so sharp), hell crystal barrels for the cannons so that we can just re summon them if they break.

[10ebbor10]

Because, at this point in time, our cannons are already being limited by the amount of mages. Ideally we'd reduce that.

[VoidSlayer]

Because, at this point in time, our cannons are already being limited by the amount of mages. Ideally we'd reduce that.

HC1-E : More expensive to produce, deployment is limited.

[evictedSaint]

The bulk of your cannon force is made up of HC1's.  You have two or three HC1-E's in each theatre.

[10ebbor10]

I assume then that you're not using this rule anymore?

Inexpensive equipment could be given to every soldier, if you want.  Cantrips can be cast by every wizard.  Expensive equipment can be given to officers, or one per squad (5-10 soldiers). Very Expensive equipment can be used by special squads only, about 1 in 100 soldiers.

Or do we have 300 man armies?

[andrea]

those numbers are for hand held equipment. heavier things have always used different numberings. in the original arms race for example even when we had cheap tanks or plans, we surely didn't have one per soldier.

[evictedSaint]

I'm going by what makes sense to have.  That rule is more of a general rule-of-thumb than something written in stone.

Edit: Andrea ninja'd me.

[10ebbor10]

On a side note, I looked at the last turn, and I found we suddenly had a second Jungle.

Northern Taiga: 4/4 Arstotzka
Central Mountains: 3/4 Arstotzka, 1/4 Moskurg
Western Jungle: 2/4 Arstotzka, 2/4 Moskurg
Eastern Plains: 4/4 Moskurg
Southern Desert: 4/4 Moskurg

Western Jungle: 1/4 Arstotzka, 3/4 Moskurg
Western Sea: Disputed
Eastern Sea: Moskurger
Southern Sea: Moskurger

Which of the two numbers is correct?