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Author Topic: Wands Race - [Arstotzka] {COMPLETED}  (Read 386404 times)

Andres

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3540 on: July 04, 2017, 03:08:25 pm »

I really do not like any of those orders, also we should totally have Myark work with our heir to push the plains, we can maybe get a double front in the desert.
Your objection seems to be a cultural one, but the one where we turn the heir into an Arstotzkan is completely strategic. It would be a massive blow to Moskurg morale. Please vote for it, or at least don't vote against it.

Glory to Arstotzka.
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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3541 on: July 04, 2017, 03:42:09 pm »

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BJORN
4 - Plains: RAM, Chiefwaffles, Helmacon, Andres, voidslayer

MYARK
2 - Desert: Andrea, Chiefwaffles
1 - Plains: Andres, voidslayer

ORDERS
1 - If Moskurg heir is captured, turn her into an Arstotzkan: Andres
1 - Allow women into our army to double our troop count: Andres
0 - Allow women into our army with no expectations on troop count because valkyries:
2 - Don't allow women into army (For keeping long term society viable): Chiefwaffles, Andrea
0 - Don't allow mundane women into army but continue to let them be magical forces:
1 - No orders this turn, let culture take it's natural course: Voidslayer
1 Let widows join as mundane troops for revenge: RAM
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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3542 on: July 04, 2017, 04:32:36 pm »

RAM, I will vote in favour of your order if you vote in favour of the Moskurg heir order.

Glory to Arstotzka.
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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3543 on: July 04, 2017, 04:39:30 pm »

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BJORN
4 - Plains: RAM, Chiefwaffles, Helmacon, Andres, voidslayer

MYARK
2 - Desert: Andrea, Chiefwaffles
1 - Plains: Andres, voidslayer

ORDERS
1 - If Moskurg heir is captured, turn her into an Arstotzkan: Andres
1 - Allow women into our army to double our troop count: Andres
0 - Allow women into our army with no expectations on troop count because valkyries:
2 - Don't allow women into army (For keeping long term society viable): Chiefwaffles, Andrea
0 - Don't allow mundane women into army but continue to let them be magical forces:
2 - No orders this turn, let culture take it's natural course: Voidslayer, Chiefwaffles
1 Let widows join as mundane troops for revenge: RAM

I'm just going to vote for no orders.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3544 on: July 04, 2017, 04:40:17 pm »

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BJORN
4 - Plains: RAM, Chiefwaffles, Helmacon, Andres, voidslayer

MYARK
2 - Desert: Andrea, Chiefwaffles
1 - Plains: Andres, voidslayer

ORDERS
2 - If Moskurg heir is captured, turn her into an Arstotzkan: Andres, RAM
1 - Allow women into our army to double our troop count: Andres
0 - Allow women into our army with no expectations on troop count because valkyries:
2 - Don't allow women into army (For keeping long term society viable): Chiefwaffles, Andrea
0 - Don't allow mundane women into army but continue to let them be magical forces:
2 - No orders this turn, let culture take it's natural course: Voidslayer, Chiefwaffles
1 Let widows join as mundane troops for revenge: RAM
« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 04:43:19 pm by RAM »
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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3545 on: July 04, 2017, 04:59:56 pm »

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BJORN
5 - Plains: RAM, Chiefwaffles, Helmacon, Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist
1 - Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES send him into the thick, even with a Protector.
1 - Make sure he learns to use an AS-R1.

MYARK
2 - Desert: Andrea, Chiefwaffles
3 - Plains: Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist

ORDERS
3 - If Moskurg heir is captured, turn her into an Arstotzkan: Andres, RAM, FallacyofUrist
Addendum - 1 - Introduce her to catgirl culture: FallacyofUrist
1 - Allow women into our army to double our troop count: Andres
0 - Allow women into our army with no expectations on troop count because valkyries:
2 - Don't allow women into army (For keeping long term society viable): Chiefwaffles, Andrea
0 - Don't allow mundane women into army but continue to let them be magical forces:
3 - No orders this turn, let culture take it's natural course: Voidslayer, Chiefwaffles, FallacyofUrist(except allowing widows to join as mundane troops)
2 - Let widows join as mundane troops for revenge: RAM, FallacyofUrist

Glory to Arstotzka.
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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3546 on: July 04, 2017, 05:06:13 pm »

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BJORN
5 - Plains: RAM, Chiefwaffles, Helmacon, Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist


MYARK
2 - Desert: Andrea, Chiefwaffles
3 - Plains: Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist

ORDERS
3 - If Moskurg heir is captured, turn her into an Arstotzkan: Andres, RAM, FallacyofUrist
Addendum - 1 - Introduce her to catgirl culture: FallacyofUrist
1 - Allow women into our army to double our troop count: Andres
0 - Allow women into our army with no expectations on troop count because valkyries:
2 - Don't allow women into army (For keeping long term society viable): Chiefwaffles, Andrea
0 - Don't allow mundane women into army but continue to let them be magical forces:
4 - No orders this turn, let culture take it's natural course: Voidslayer, Chiefwaffles, FallacyofUrist(except allowing widows to join as mundane troops), Andrea
2 - Let widows join as mundane troops for revenge: RAM, FallacyofUrist
1 - Bjorn; Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES send him into the thick, even with a Protector.
1 - Bjorn; Make sure he learns to use an AS-R1.

Andrea agreed on Discord to vote for No Orders, so I'm adding it to the votes for him. I also added Fallacy's added Bjorn-related orders to ORDERS instead of BJORN. Even though we almost definitely won't need to roll for it, they're still orders.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3547 on: July 04, 2017, 05:47:24 pm »

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BJORN
5 - Plains: RAM, Chiefwaffles, Helmacon, Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist


MYARK
2 - Desert: Andrea, Chiefwaffles
3 - Plains: Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist

ORDERS
3 - If Moskurg heir is captured, turn her into an Arstotzkan: Andres, RAM, FallacyofUrist
Addendum - 1 - Introduce her to catgirl culture: FallacyofUrist
1 - Allow women into our army to double our troop count: Andres
0 - Allow women into our army with no expectations on troop count because valkyries:
2 - Don't allow women into army (For keeping long term society viable): Chiefwaffles, Andrea
0 - Don't allow mundane women into army but continue to let them be magical forces:
4 - No orders this turn, let culture take it's natural course: Voidslayer, Chiefwaffles, FallacyofUrist(except allowing widows to join as mundane troops), Andrea
3 - Let widows join as mundane troops for revenge: RAM, FallacyofUrist, Andres
1 - Bjorn; Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES send him into the thick, even with a Protector.
1 - Bjorn; Make sure he learns to use an AS-R1.
1 - Bjorn; Issue no special orders regarding Bjorn: Andres
FallacyofUrist, you're at once voting to convert the heir and to not give orders. That is contradictory.

Glory to Arstotzka.
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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3548 on: July 04, 2017, 06:11:27 pm »


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BJORN
5 - Plains: RAM, Chiefwaffles, Helmacon, Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist


MYARK
3 - Desert: Andrea, Chiefwaffles, helmacon
3 - Plains: Andres, voidslayer, FallacyofUrist

ORDERS
3 - If Moskurg heir is captured, turn her into an Arstotzkan: Andres, RAM, FallacyofUrist
Addendum - 1 - Introduce her to catgirl culture: FallacyofUrist
1 - Allow women into our army to double our troop count: Andres
0 - Allow women into our army with no expectations on troop count because valkyries:
2 - Don't allow women into army (For keeping long term society viable): Chiefwaffles, Andrea
0 - Don't allow mundane women into army but continue to let them be magical forces:
4 - No orders this turn, let culture take it's natural course: Voidslayer, Chiefwaffles, FallacyofUrist(except allowing widows to join as mundane troops), Andrea
3 - Let widows join as mundane troops for revenge: RAM, FallacyofUrist, Andres
1 - Bjorn; Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES send him into the thick, even with a Protector.
1 - Bjorn; Make sure he learns to use an AS-R1.
1 - Bjorn; Issue no special orders regarding Bjorn: Andres
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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3549 on: July 04, 2017, 11:18:26 pm »

It looks like we have a tie over where to send Myark. So let me go over why you should send Myark to the Desert.


1.) The Desert is the safest place for Moskurg's heir. It was the place where they lost the least last turn, so chances are they're going to try to send their heir there. It would be extremely dumb for them to send their heir to any place else, as the desert is where they're most likely to win.
2.) Moskurg will likely send Al-whatshisface to protect their heir in the desert.
3.) If Myark and Al-face meet, then Bjorn will be safe and sound in the Plains where we have the greatest pre-explosive ammunition advantage + Protector advantage + Expensive Restless advantage. Meanwhile, we will have new advantages in the desert (same as Plains - Expensive Restless, cheaper cannons, and the Protector which should excel in the Desert terrain) that should ensure that Myark will win over Al-face, and thus ensure our victory over the desert, denying Moskurg the revision credit.
4.) If Al-face is sent to the Plains, then Myark will almost certainly ensure victory over the desert while our advantages in the plains means that even with Al-face there, Bjorn will almost definitely survive if not win.

My point is, the Desert and Plains should be places where we will win fairly easily. Most of our designs this turn help in the Desert and Plains the most - the Protector will work the best in the flatter terrain. The Expensive Restless will be a lot more effective at transporting men and ammunition in the terrain. Our now-Cheap HA1s and now-cheap-every-other-cannon have always been best in the Plains and Desert.
With Myark facing Moskurg's heir, we'll definitely deny them the revision credit. With Myark facing Al-face and their heir in the desert, we'll still have a significant chance of denying them a revision credit while practically ensuring our victory of the challenge in the plains with unopposed Bjorn.


TL;DR: They will almost definitely have their heir in the Desert. But if they have their Hero and their Heir in the Desert, we will likely lose there. Sending Myark there will greatly increase our chances of hurting their Heir. We don't need Myark to protect Bjorn, as we will already have a great advantage in the Plains. If they do send their Hero to the plains, we will be able to easily take their heir (again, it'd be idiotic for them to send their heir anywhere else) and the desert while they have a much smaller chance of even wounding Bjorn.


Also remember that Myark has the wand of true light, which is a really powerful theatre-scale weapon.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3550 on: July 04, 2017, 11:20:15 pm »

Oh man, I can't wait to roll each of those eight orders at a disadvantage.

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3551 on: July 04, 2017, 11:34:28 pm »

Oh man, I can't wait to roll each of those eight orders at a disadvantage.

At least mine doesn't count as a ninth!

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3552 on: July 04, 2017, 11:36:53 pm »

VoidSlayer! Do the right thing! Vote to send Myark to the desert so we can truly cement victory!
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3553 on: July 05, 2017, 12:14:15 am »

VoidSlayer! Do the right thing! Vote to send Myark to the desert so we can truly cement victory!

Wait what?  I was trying to make trees that resist lighting and fire, down here in the underdomes while fighting off beast monsters.

I vote to send Myark to the deserts instead of the plains.  Mathmagics help us all.

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Re: Wands Race - [Arstotzka]
« Reply #3554 on: July 05, 2017, 12:23:46 am »

Oh man, I can't wait to roll each of those eight orders at a disadvantage.
someone add me to no orders please.
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