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Author Topic: Wands Race - [Moskurg] {COMPLETED}  (Read 203969 times)

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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #645 on: April 18, 2017, 11:42:19 pm »

Of course they would want the system that doesn't show us dumpster img them

Works for me
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #646 on: April 19, 2017, 01:00:10 am »

I'm good with that.
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #647 on: April 19, 2017, 01:15:21 am »

If it's about the armor, platemail isn't a welded-together single piece of metal like a car frame.  Same for a wire.  Can't guarantee good contacts the way down like chainmail.
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #648 on: April 19, 2017, 02:12:35 am »

Hmm. That's unfortunate. Sure, use Sensei's system. I'm confident we will still be able to win.

EDIT: And, actually, I was wondering why they were making no progress when we were doing basically nothing for a few turns. I was worried they were also developing some multi-turn project, but I guess they were just getting screwed over by the game engine?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 03:34:24 am by NUKE9.13 »
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #649 on: April 19, 2017, 07:44:48 am »

Pretty much, yeah.

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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #650 on: April 19, 2017, 08:09:09 am »

So, moskurg not losing is a bug in the system.  And we're moving to a subjective system where the whines of 10ebbor and such are going to get transformed directly into bonuses.

So.. we're going to lose, then?  Due to a ruleset change, based on bugs we aren't allowed to observe, and claims we aren't allowed to challenge?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 08:13:01 am by Devastator »
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #651 on: April 19, 2017, 08:12:06 am »

Honestly I'm fine with the system as is; it's not completely dependant on the magic and other advances in magical theory/tech and has room for upsets that a less advanced foe can use. If Arstotzka is getting screwed in the rolls, well, they can grin and bear it; they've got full fucking plate in the 900s :P
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #652 on: April 19, 2017, 08:13:45 am »

Don't worry Taricus.  It isn't like something bad is going to happen, such as one of my ideas getting designed.

It's okay though, changing the system because of a bug is understandable.  Would it be possible to fix the bug instead?
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #653 on: April 19, 2017, 12:42:06 pm »

I believe that's what evicted has been trying to do. If we're willing to make this sort of concession for Arstotzka it will make us look all the better when we win. If we don't we can resort to classic salt tactics and claim they only won because Evicted was biased in their favour in an attempt to make it up to them for the bug.

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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #654 on: April 19, 2017, 10:18:38 pm »

That must be nice, getting to see things you designed built.
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« Reply #655 on: April 19, 2017, 10:29:36 pm »

That must be nice, getting to see things you designed built.
Alright, alright, geez, we get the point.

... What was the thing(s?) that you proposed, again?
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #656 on: April 19, 2017, 10:30:09 pm »

It's not that you're having bad ideas, it's just that we've been rushing one big project after another. First all the storm stuff, now the anti-magic. I'm sure after we iron out all the kinks with this, we'll take the time o make some smaller designs/revisions.
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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #657 on: April 19, 2017, 10:46:08 pm »

Combat for 922


The mountains loom ominously in the distance, barely visible through the rising heat of the sands.  They will soon know our fury, once we've taken the lands surrounding their stoney steeps and force them from our ancient birthright.

Other than mean looks, nothing interesting happens.

No battles occur in the mountains.

With the great open flatlands available in the plains, our men develop a new sport that takes advantage of the plentiful flat area.  It involves marching a ram (kicking a ball) into the enemy's castle (the other teams net) to lay claim to their lands (gain a point).  To reflect the true nature of the war we've been fighting, scoring points is rare and well-celebrated and men regularly pretend to be wounded in combat.  We've named the new sport "Foot-Ball" because our men are uncreative and can't come up with a unique name.

Other than a couple head-butts, no actual combat happens.

No battles occur in the plains.

Arstotzkan cowards have withdrawn their forces from the desert.  Much like us, they seem unwilling to commit forces to a battle unless victory is guaranteed - or at least a fair chance.  Our homelands are safe for the year.

No battles occur in the desert.


Almost as if the war had been waiting for an excuse to intensify, the jungle is painted red with blood this year.

Our skirmishers are stymied as they attempt to lull guards into zen-like states and gain knowledge of where their caltrops are placed.  We fail to gain entry into the guards mind though, and it seems to trigger some sort of high-pitch alarm that alerts the camp, allowing them to mobilize quickly.  Ambushes turn into full-fledged melees which we then lose with our smaller skirmishing force.  The battles are still costly to the enemy, but we don't come out ahead.  Our men are decked out with padded armor and small bucklers - even our calvary.  Without the advantage of surprise or adequate protection, their longbowmen slaughter our men easily.  Officers aren't immune either; their scalemail is decent at turning a blow from an axe or a sword, but an ash arrow cast from a four foot long bow punches right through it.  The jungle provides some cover and favor our compound bows over their longbows, but we simply don't have any way of successfully ambushing them.

Arstotzkan ambushes don't go much better.  The hot jungle reminds our men of home, but with their Tower of Frost keeping the territory temperate we don't have that advantage any more.  Thankfully, it's easy to see their men coming during ambushes.  Their fog has grown too dense to blow away, but by its very nature informs us of an attack.  Furthermore, the clanking of their armor tips us off if they try to bring heavy troops in to fight.  Our arrows can't penetrate except at point-blank, but with mass volleys coming down on their heads it's not hard for a few to find their way into gaps and eyeslits.  Their heavy calvary is a problem, though.  Their charges are devastating when they hit, smashing into our lightly-armored (or not-at-all armored) men with their crystal lances.  It was a difficult call, but the theatre commander elects not to use Tubikh Rrahim just yet, instead saving it as a surprise for the full combat.  Arstotzka has trouble doing much damage with the thick mud and dense foliage hampering their heavy shire horses, but they come out slightly ahead, even managing to capture one of our apprentices in the middle of the night and dragging him away screaming.  As they disappear into the jungle, through the dark and the rain, a single, massive, powerful bolt of lightning comes down with a glow that turns the world to day for a brief second.  Our senior wizards posthumously name the brave, noble apprentice an honorary Master Wizard for his sacrifice.  You will not be forgotten, Brave Maealij Albarq. Moskurg gains a Martyr.

The battles during the day begin to grow uglier.  Rain is non-stop, and lightning touches down every few seconds striking trees and steel-clad soldiers alike.  Likewise, fireballs stream through the foliage indiscriminately.  Fires claw at tree trunks only to be put out within seconds by the downpour.  Where the fireballs do hit our men scream and die horrible, agonizing deaths.  Arstotzkan soldiers do not scream when lightning strikes, instantaneously cooked inside their welded-shut armor coffins.  Their fellow soldiers get incredibly upset by this, screaming in their filthy gutter language about 'realism' and 'faraday cages', as though their feeble science could protect them from the wrath of Allah. 

Arstotzkans start off with a sudden, powerful charge from their heavy calvary.  They can't maintain formation in the dense undergrowth, but there's enough of them it doesn't matter.  Gleaming lances of magic crystal are clutched in the hands of each horseman, and just before they slam into our men they all vanish into a puff of smoke.  It's a shock to the horsemen as their weapons disappear from their grasp, leaving them unarmed in the midst of our spearmen.  It's not even close - only one in ten make it back to their lines.  A cheer goes up from our men as the Arstotzkans are forced to withdraw what's left of their decimated calvary.  That battle went in our favor, but now they know about our anti-magic capabilities.  The casters will likely be targeted in future combats by their Anti-Mage elite troops.

With Arstotzkan heavy calvary taken care of, arrows begin to pelt both sides, making up the majority of the combat done by non-magical troops.  Their arrows skewer our unarmored troops, and our arrows tend to clatter harmlessly off their rusted steel plate.  Our mages cast Lucky Strike non-stop as it's the only way we can be sure an arrow will bring down an enemy soldier.  We're barely able to keep the combat even this way, though once the foot soldiers meet it's no contest.  Their armored axemen hack through padded armor easily, but it takes two or three men to bring down a single Arstotzkan.  Their commanders are met with the same fate as their horsemen - the gleaming crystal axes, once the mark of their leadership, are returned to non-existence once in range of our battle lines.  They become easy prey, and without leadership their men eventually turn and flee back north.  We take many prisoners and ship them south to work in our concentration camps.  Sadly, Tubikh Rrahim is immobile and can't be used on our offensive, so we have difficulty pressing our luck.  Our Moskurg troops, while more plentiful, are inferior to Arstotzkan armored troopers.  Their fireballs blast through our men easily, and giant walls of fire section off entire areas of combat.  Though they're weakened from the disastrous assault they'd just launched the Arstotzkans are fairly even with our men.  Without lightning we can safely use in danger-close situations, all seems lost...until our calvary successfully flanks the enemy.  Lightly armored and armed with shitty lances, they turn the battle just barely in our favor, and though we're forced to eventually pull back Arstotzka loses more men than we do. 


Spoiler: Wizard Battle (click to show/hide)


We don't gain ground, but we did very well.  Both sides lost a lot of men - both nations have almost their entire army centered in this territory.  Another battle like that and we push them out of the jungle.

Our theatre commander complains of the stark difference in equipment quality between our troops and Arstotzka's.  Their armor is still a problem and we rely heavily on our numbers and Lucky strike to even make a scratch.  Our own men have next to no protection from arrows - though Cyclone Shield is handy for protecting a mage between volleys, it can't protect anyone else.  Our own commanders are vulnerable, and the casters of Tubikh Rrahim are especially so.  If Tubikh Rrahim were more mobile we'd also gain the element of surprise back during skirmishes - the lead horsemen could charge through their caltrops and we could get into their camps without fussing about with mind-reading.  He also expresses frustration that the Hammer can't be used in danger-close situations, and that the Spear is next to useless - save for Brave Maealij Albarq, may Allah rest his soul.  Finally, if you could conjure up some magic to keep their fire from burning our men to death, that would be wonderful - he understands if you have more important things to do than keep poor Moskurgs from dying in droves, though.


Neither side gains ground in the jungle.


Both sides seem evenly matched in the western sea.  Arstotzkan ships are large, sturdy, and slow.  Our ships are fast, light, and fragile.  Our wind magic helps us move quickly here, scurrying around and flanking the enemy when we can.  Sadly, our teletalk wands are short-range and can't be used here effectively, and since storms cause the sea to roil regardless of where we make it rain we are forced to fight without.  The enemy is too slow to catch us, though they do spout fireballs out of the fog they cloud their ships with.  Without a definite advantage for either side, neither gains victory.  Battles tend to be both sides standing a distance away, pelting one another with arrows and fireballs before retreating back to port.  Once again, neither side gains ground here.

The theatre commander claims better coordination would help turn the tide here.  Longer-range teletalk wands, for example, would allow split-second decisions to be disseminated throughout the entire fleet to coordinate ramming attacks and sudden flanks.  Alternatively, an offensive weapon that we could use on the seas would give us something to match their fireballs and let us gain a decisive edge on those dirty Arstotzkans.

Neither side makes coastal gains in the Western Sea.



It is 923, the Design Phase.

Spoiler: State of Forenia, 923 (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Moskurger Equipment (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Moskurger Spells (click to show/hide)

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Re: Wands Race - [Moskurg]
« Reply #658 on: April 19, 2017, 11:04:51 pm »

What about the usage of  larger shields?  If combined with the right doctrine, it would provide for better missile protection, and would help against cavalry charges.
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« Reply #659 on: April 19, 2017, 11:06:13 pm »

Well if we could develop pikes in tandem with the shields that'd be great. If that is possible.
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